Bad Guy Good Audio Rankings and stuff (under construction) (Part 2)

Ah, many thanks for the info.
I’ll fool around and see what I can figure out.
One other question, did you find that the FatFreq Maestro Minis benefitted from EQ?

Thanks for all the info you provide to the community to help the inexperienced like me.

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I put a piece of foam in the tips of the Maestro mini just cuz i don’t like un damped BA in nozzle. It seemed to take some sharp edge of as i had hoped. i hope that helps.
Happy new Year!

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I have noticed the following things about tips, YYMV as everyone’s ears are different:

  • Wider bore gives me a more open soundstage
  • Deeper insertion usually results in more forward vocals and more intimate, inverse being shallower insertion has recessed vocals and gives sense of soundstage
  • Better seal results in better bass. This is more so the result of tip material than narrow vs wide bore as I have noticed better bass response on some wide bores vs narrow bores.
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My view on tips is that small bore tips dampen treble, giving the sense of more bass.
Also tips with thin walls tend to give the feeling of more treble/less bass.

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Deeper insertion tends to give me a smoother treble.

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I appreciate everyone’s input.
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Nice, I’m jealous, I ordered the Khan few hours after it went live and it hasn’t even shipped yet :sweat_smile: At least my Cadenza is finally arriving tomorrow after weeks of delay over the holidays, so I have that to look forward to.

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Graphs like something you’d like :smile: looking forward to your impressions!

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For $18 it has to leak acid into my ear to mess up. Tuning seems quite safe :v:

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Speaking of toxic things in the ear…

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hmm

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Oh boy - another snooze-fest. Seems like TE is a bit late to the party but are they fashionably late? Or just looking like a straggler … that’s the question.

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To be fair, it looks like I’d prefer it to the Cadenza, so I appreciate it as an option. Next thing I’d need to know is the driver material.

I don’t think I’d be getting it anyway. Tin C3 graphs promisingly for me, Hola looks like it might, but I’m really at the stage of preferring to stick with something I already have than try and sell / try and keep even budget sets.

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I think I’m a hair too late when it comes to this tip discussion but I wanted to add one thing - the stem thickness tends to change the sound for me as well. If the stem on the tip is thicker, it helps with having a thicker bass response, more note weight in the lower regions, while having a thinner stem gives the bass less presence and it also creates this boomy effect in same cases (less control). Some tips have the same material on the stem as they do with umbrella portion of the tip and this makes them very pliable and easy to fit but it also makes them prone to collapsing in your ear which will break the seal.

I say to continue to play around with what you have and see what works best. Everything else that’s been said pretty much lines up with my findings I will say.
Narrow bore = more bass, less treble/upper mids narrower stage
Wider bore = less bass, more treble/perceived stage

I will also point out that having a very short tip with a wider bore (making the driver closer to your actual ear drum) sometimes can accentuate mid-bass presence. This is still a working theory for me.

Happy tip rolling!!

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To be fair, yeah I definitely agree. The cut around 3K would be beneficial to me, no doubt. In my opinion though, budget sets should be for trying out different tuning styles and trying to be as different as possible. This way you can spend the $20, $30, $40 on different FRs and really nailing down what you enjoy - further more, I think standing out in the crowd would be beneficial for such a new company like TE.

Say for example the Hola has a similar FR to Cadenza but it beats on … fit, looks and build quality (which I doubt) then yes, winner winner chicken dinner.

But if it’s more of the same, $20 to $35 isn’t a huge leap for us American folks (I know it’s different out there around the world so I feel that) you might as well go for the Cadenza. Now say if the Hola had a party trick on the tuning front… idk big stinky sub-bass or an airy treble region, more so than what’s already on the market, then you have a novel set where a lot of people will take notice.

I tend to ramble in the morning, can’t you notice I’m utterly insane?

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Great advice, find a FR you like and then commit to it at a higher price for (potentially) better texture, separation, imaging, stage, speed, etc.

Interestingly I don’t really think of the Cadenza as being on a pedestal, I’ve yet to fall in love with it in any special way. Besides that, it’s the first nozzle in a long time that I’ve found to be picky with what tips can fit on it without a struggle.

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I’d very much like to see a company that would make the exact same tuning with the exact same shell, but with 3 different drivers, each one in a different price bracket. The offer of such a company would be very logical and sensible. Then you can try the entry-level set and go up if you like it, or even compare and contrast the different price brakes to get a real feeling of what changes in technicalities when you go up.

I don’t know if a company would really want to do that, if it would be physically doable, or even beneficial to us (I guess many technicalities are tied one way or another to the FR). How could it would be, though.

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