@M0N do you think the DT-1770 Pro have more bass? I might save up and go for them instead of dt770 if that’s the case.
Honestly have a bit of a mixed bag, I think it’s got a bit wonky tuning and the technical performance isn’t as good as other options at it’s price (even compared to the 1990 for example)
Generally tuning wise, it’s more like a warmer thicker balanced compared to the 770 250s more v shape, generally the 1770 is more forward and aggressive with a bit more technical performance but also more warmth that can sometimes translate into bloat, bleed, and slight sloppiness. Bass has good thickness and body, but honestly doesn’t slam as hard and feels bloated around 100hz which messes with balance. It does still have good extension though, just lacks some cleanliness. The midrange is more elevated and capable than the 770 250 so that’s a plus. Treble wise, is weird, it feels a bit less prominent and pronounced as other beyers, but has some weird peaks that can be irritating and come off as overly forward while the rest of the treble isn’t, and almost felt like it lacked a bit of extension but it wasn’t that big of an issue. Still good spatial recreation though, and pretty good dynamics. Resolution is above the 770 250 but not massively so
I do think it could be worth trying if you got from somewhere you could return just in case, and also if you got a good price for it (I don’t think it’s worthwhile at mrsp), otherwise the 770 250 is still a nice choice imo
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This looks like an oxymoron to me
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@CarpentersFan Would love to hear your advice, ignore the music production part :). My perfect headphones would be flat and detailed except from 250hz to 20hz I would love to have a huge bass boost. Eqing might do the trick for me what do you think?
Harmonicdyne Zeus is fairly bass heavy and warm. An absolute steal at 350 USD
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I kinda thought the same thing, but there are cases where you may want to have a bassy headphone for production, basically comes in handy either as a secondary to test how your work may sound on more bassy consumer headphones to see if it gets overwhelming, to test the quality of bass if the headphone excels in that area, or if you find that your work constantly ends up sounding bassy you could grab a more bass heavy headphone and that would make you overcompensate sometimes resulting in a more proper bass balance for other headphones.
But yes generally personally I’d rather just have more dead neutral for studio work
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I’m in a similar boat and I’m thoroughly enjoying using the Monoprice Monolith portable to be able to put a shelf on the low waned for when I want a little more. This way I can just go back to the regular flat sound in any scenario whether I’m streaming or whatever
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V-mods crossfade M-100 master closed back headphones with decent bass levels. Supposedly popular with Dj. If you took Beats by Dre and gave them way better sound quality they would be the v moda.
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@M0N Soooo a little update, today I tried DT770s 250ohm (my friend had them) and I absolutely love them, the highs are so clean and detailed and they sound great. But they don’t have enough bass for my personal taste so I EQed them boosting frequencies from 20hz - 250hz for 5db and they sound absolutely AMAZING. The bass is great, loud, punchy but they still don’t sound muddy, they still sound very clean and detailed with more bass but you do loose a bit of high end detail, like various background vocals, effects, foleys etc. So I’ll most likely get them for producing and mixing and when I decide I want more bass and less high end I can always eq them and that will satisfy my needs. I use Equalizer APO software for my eq, do you have any suggestions for better software or hardware eqs? Thank you so much for your recommendations, I really appreciate it :). (I’m still looking for headphones with even more bass for casual listening).
What amp did you try them on?
Cool cool
I’d stick with software, eq apo does a good job. You can get an amp that has naturally a bit more lifted low end if needed
If that’s the case, than the preciously mentioned meze 99 are worthwhile, I actually also think like a Sony mdr1a could he worth a look. Other options I like end up being semi open and discontinued (like an audioquest nighthawk, fostex x00 purple heart) or aren’t easy to get in Eu like a modhouse argon mk3
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I tried them on a Scarlett Solo 3rd gen (same audio interface I have) and they sounded loud with plenty of volume left. Do you think I should still buy one of the amps you recommended? Will it have an effect on the sound? I just ordered my DT770s so I’m super excited, now I’m deciding between Meze 99 Classics and 99 Neos (for casual listening). I heard that the Neos have more bass, what pair would you recommend I get? Again thank you so much for your help, already love and bought one pair of headphones you recommended so I’m excited to hear what you think.
Yes, so volume isn’t the only thing an amp does, it’s also about quality of power. You might find that treble clarity gets much better, bass gets more prominent and impactful while being even more technical, and the midrange gets a bit more bump in prominence. They should also get more dynamic and also have better spatial recreation. An overall elevation of what they can do. If you wanted more warmth and body then a monolith liquid spark would be a good starter (if you can’t squeeze for the lake people)
So if you are after bass, go neo, if you want a bit more refinement go classics
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I had no idea that amps affect sound quality, thought it was just volume. I can’t seem to find a monolith liquid spark in eu, if I get a lake people g103s would I have to buy a better amp down the road? My next upgrade will probably be a DT 1770.
Nope that would carry along just fine, later on you might want to upgrade the dac though, but a g103s would be a ok for a 1770
@M0N what is your opinion on Denon AH-D5200s. I can’t decide between Meze 99 Classics and 5200s for a fun casual listening experience. Judging by the frequency response Mezes seem to have more bass (which is what I’m looking for) and 5200s seem to be more balanced. What about sound quality and soundstage do you think there’s a major difference? I’m looking for a fun bassy sound with good sound quality.
I like the d5200, it’s a pretty well rounded headphone, it’s not going to be as bassy as the 99 classics, but it will have tighter bass, more extension with better rumble, and impact that hits much harder imo. But if you are looking for quantity, I don’t know if that would be my first pick. Stage wise it will have sharper imaging, more depth, slightly less width, but more accurate imo. Also generally more technically proficient with better detail retrieval, dynamics, and control
If you could find a used fostex THx00 or TRx00 Purpleheart really can slam, uses a similar foster driver as the denon but with much more prominence. Also if you can find a used campfire cascade that would also be really sweet too.
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So I’ve been researching and I think a Fostex headphone is what I’m looking for my sound preference. Fun, punchy, bassy (krk rokit sound but in headphones). I can get used Fostex TH900s from amazon for 630eu or mk2s for 750eu. Is the only difference between them a detachable cable? Or I could get TH-X00 mahogany for 380eu from ebay. I would prefer to buy from amazon in case I decide to return them. What would your recommendation be? Thank you so much for all your help :).
Yes main only difference is detachable cable. Be warned though that you really would want to heavily invest in a better amp and dac at this point for this level of can, I would not want to go this high off the bat. Also the th900 can be a bit brighter than people are used to
I would go this route first imo, that’s a reasonable price, perhaps offer a bit lower if you can, but to me this is a wiser choice atm
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So, long time (amateur, ie non pro) sound designer and music producer here. Not sure why you’d want a boosted bass headphone for producing, but if you have that much to spend, why not spread it around a few headphones or some decent monitors?
That way you can represent your mix in different ways:
My Shure SRH840s are dull and flat, but good for a mix
My DT770s have good soundstage and piercing (but clear I guess highs) and can reveal some lower frequencies well and good dynamics
My DCA AEON RTs have loads of precise detail (especially in the low end) wide soundstage & speed, but not good dynamics…
And my wired Apple lightning earphones are the ground truth for what most ppl will listen with.
Engineers I’ve worked with and who’s sound I respect always used/suggested HD650s or 6XXs - not because they were perfect, but because they were the least bad option
Good luck!
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The 1770s sound like they would be great for you, but just remember to throw out the pads that come on them and swap in the pleather pads that are also included. Night and day difference.
They are also way better than the 770 250 ohms in every single way except price, but you get what you pay for.
PS: Buy a good amp no matter what
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