Discussion thread on THIEAUDIO HYPE 2/4/10...; THIEAUDIO Prestige LTD/OG and other interesting IEMs

I didn’t know they existed until now: :nerd_face:
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“The Aurora features our twin 9mm dynamic Firewoofers, resulting in a tight bass response with deep extension. Mids are very transparent, purely reflecting details of any recording. Highs are truly crisp, but non-fatiguing – displaying dynamic flickers as wonderful as the polar lights.”

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$2100! Woah.

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I had a short session with the Hype10 this evening. The bass is impressively powerful and massive, making it a genuine pleasure for bassheads. And more impressive is the fact that this bass does not touch the higher frequencies. Mids are full-bodied, sweet, and rich. Treble is done quite well too, but not as good as something like Monarch MK2. The soundstage leans towards the intimate side but has an amazing depth, providing that spine-tingling sensation of sound expanding beyond your head. With flagship-level sound at a budget-friendly price, the Hype10 is a one-and-done type of in-ear monitor (IEM).

It was hard to identify shortcomings in the Hype10. I also compared it to the Monarch MK2. The MK2 offers a broader stage and maintains superior treble energy. Hype10 is all about fun. Hard to put down.

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Bruh it’s the same thing :joy:

Is there a bump in resolution from the H4? I’m assuming the texture is very similar given that they use the same vent design and drivers.

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That was nice to hear what everyone had to say. Good stuff…good stuff
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Zeos doesn’t show its face very often and invite audiophiles to buy an IEM. I actually enjoy my H2 a lot and I think the tuning is a bit better than the H4, but IMO. Stunning work by Thie for folks who want to listen to music, not just IEMs :wink:.

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Almost went to Canjam UK to meet him this year, our barge is mostly’ish within a 20-60 minute car drive, then a 30 minute train + underground trip to London Can…getting old, I enjoy my music more at home, don’t like lots of folk and less and less interested in new stuff :joy::notes::metal:…but I would’ve like to :fist_right::fist_left: @ZeosPantera…maybe next year :man_shrugging:

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THIEAUDIO HYPE 10 review from Kaye Dee ( facebook ):

2 x Dynamic Drivers

10 x Balanced Armature Drivers.

*IMPACT2 (“Impact Squared”) sub bass solution consisting of 2 qty 10mm composite diaphragm dynamic drivers arranged in an in house designed isobaric configuration.

*2 qty Sonion 28UAP bass drivers.

*2 qty Sonion E50DT midrange drivers.

*6? (qty unconfirmed) Knowles SWFK 31736 series ultra-tweeters.

*4 way crossover.

-Sensitivity:

105dB/Vrms@1KHz

-Impedance:

18Ω@1KHz

-Frequency Response:

10Hz-40kHz

Preamble:

HYPE is an acronym for Hybrid Performance.

My interaction with Hype 10, Thieaudio’s latest offering from the Hype series, validates, in my mind, that this IEM is destined to generate HYPE within the hobby.

Pros:

😊 No tuning switches, or nozzles!! 👍🏽(subjective)

😊 Great looks (subjective). Shells are vented.

😊 Good build, fit and finish.

😊 Excellent fit, anchor, and comfort (for my ears)

😊 Packaging is pretty standard, comes with a spacious carry case that will fit in a large pocket.

😊 Nice quality 2 pin silver plated OCC modular cable with 3.5, 2.5 and 4.4mm terminations.

😊 Responds to/follows source device.

😊 Compatible with a wide variety of genre. Maybe all? 🤷🏻‍♂️

😊 Sub bass goes low, stays low. Deep, rich and textured, it’s not a one trick pony, it will rumble, boom, or even “whoompf” depending on what’s asked of it.

😊 Good definition between sub and mid bass.

😊 Mid bass has fast transients and quick decay, it compliments the deep and textured sub bass very nicely.

😊 Mids are clear, very detailed, spacious, and immaculately layered.

😊 Female vocalists like Norah Jones or Adele will present elevated. While male vocalists like Ray Wylie Hubbard, or Trace Adkins will lay lower in the mix.

😊 Treble region is clean and bright with very good micro detail, sparkle, and air.

😊 Head stage, while confined mostly within the head space, has incredible spatial accuracy. The layering and imaging is top shelf.

Cons:

😔 Ear piece shells are on the larger size and may be a challenge for those with smaller ears.

😔 On highly resolving source devices, mids and highs could be perceived as too “clinical” for some.

Sources:

I’ll get Source Devices out of the way first.

I tried Hype 10 with Astell & Kern Kann Max, iBasso DX320, and Shanling M9 Ltd.

I’m jotting thoughts in real time, and at this point I haven’t tried a phone or dongles, I’ll try to provide some quick insight on those after the summary.

The AK is the most resolving of the three, the Shanling the warmest, and I find the iBasso slots somewhere in between.

I can listen to, and enjoy, the Hype 10 on any one of the three, however, I do find the highly resolving AK Kann Max tightens the bass and enhances the clarity and detail in the mids and highs to the point of becoming somewhat clinical, with, perhaps, a touch of BA timbre on some tracks.

The source evaluation is 100% biased toward my hearing, and my hearing preference.

For those who enjoy highly detailed and resolved mids and highs, a more resolving source device may be the preferred choice.

I found, after several lengthy listening sessions, my preference was for the warmer sources, and in the end, chose for my evaluation of Hype 10, the warmest and most balanced of the three, the Shanling M9 Ltd.

Equipment:

-Thieaudio Hype 10 iem, aged 75-80 hrs.

-Shanling M9 Ltd., low gain, 4.4mm out.

-Stock SPC modular cable, with 4.4mm termination.

-Wide bore ear tips, Sedna Xelastec.

Music Library:

Rock, Blues, Jazz, Country, Electronic, Symphonic, Pop, Rap/R&B, Acoustic, etc.

Music Sources:

FLAC and DSD files from SD card, streaming Qobuz.

Sound:

Sub bass, as mentioned above, is textured and agile, at least as agile as sub bass can be.

Listening to Daft Punk - Burnin’/Too Long - Alive 2007, at around the 4:00 minute mark, the sub bass has super low bottom, boomy, and and in the background, then it layers in a thumpy, more present sub bass on top.

Conversely; listening to Frederic Alarie - George - Mega Bass (2xHD), an acoustic double bass solo performance, Sub bass is thick and boomy but tight and in control with excellent resonance that lingers just the right amount before decay. Every note and finger pluck clear and accurate with natural timbre and tonality.

Mid bass is tight and punchy.

Listening to Metallica - Now That We’re Dead - Hardwired To Self Destruct, 2017. In the opening volley the kick drum has thump, toms are full and punchy.

Joe Bonamassa - Livin’ Easy - Blues of Desperation. The bass line lays low and just chugs along low on stage.

Overall the bass generally stays in place and doesn’t overshadow the head stage. On warmer sources it does carry some warmth into mids, and there are exceptions where bass will fill the head space.

Billie Eilish - Bad Guy the bass carries through the head space. On many IEM I find the bass on this song loose and one dimensional, but on Hype 10 it’s thick, textured and controlled.

The term “bass-head” conjures up thoughts of excessive, over bearing bass presence to me. In reality though, it refers to anyone who loves good bass, and in that context, Hype 10 should satisfy the majority of bass heads.

Mids are clean, clear, bright, and detailed.

The stage is more intimate than expansive, but Hype 10 manages to retain a good spatial atmosphere in the mid range which keeps them from becoming congested, even on busy tracks.

Poncho Sanchez - Poncho Sanchez Medley #2 - Trane’s Delight. The mids can become crowded with trumpets, guitars, vocals, percussion, and piano, in addition to bass and high end being present.

Each instrument and vocalist is still able to maintain individuality, presence, tonality, and dynamics.

Vocals are articulate, with natural tonality on both male and female vocals.

Vocals follow the recorded source. They can, at times, be elevated and more forward, and at other times, lower in the mix, or less forward.

(Note: on highly resolving source devices I found vocals thinned a bit)

Eden Atwood - He’s A Carioca - Waves: The Bossa Nova Sessions.

Eden’s smoky alto voice is smooth and intoxicating. I’m very familiar with this track and the vocals are spot on for tonality and timbre.

Highs are crisp and articulate with very fast transients and lots of micro detail.

Listening to Robert Glasper Trio - No Worries - Double Booked, this is a fast paced track, and around the 4:30 minute mark it really picks up the pace and gets “busy” on piano and drums. Individual high notes on the piano are coming fast and hard, but remain clear and precise, with no hint of congestion.

Drum strikes are quick and tight, and you hear every stick strike on drums and cymbals. Cymbals are crisp and airy with authentic shimmer/sizzle, nothing missing, nothing over done.

The head stage is where Hype 10 slips a wee bit.

Width is good, slightly outside the ears.

Height is also good, airy up to the top of my skull, sub bass is excellent, but could pull the bottom depth a bit lower.

Front to rear depth is average or a bit better.

Back to Eden Atwood - He’s A Carioca. On IEMs with excellent depth perception I hear drums distinctly in the back, bass and guitars as well as piano mid stage, and Eden’s vocals front and center. On Hype 10 the depth perception is there, but shallower.

The saving grace is the separation and individuality of instruments. On a fairly intimate stage, the imaging and layering is precise and accurate, maintaining an air of open space between performers.

Summary:

Straight up; I like the Hype 10, a lot.

I hear with my ears, not my eyes, but when I saw the frequency graph for Hype 10 I was fairly confident the sound signature was going to work for me.

I’m sensitive to aggressive Pinna gain and peaks in the 2.5-3.5k range.

And I’m hearing pretty much what the graph indicates, a fairly smooth transition into the upper mids and a stable glide into the highs.

Quality, textured bass in ample quantity. Clear, detailed, and articulate, mids and highs.

Natural and accurate vocals.

Excellent imaging and layering.

Ticks all my boxes.

Those who look for an enhanced, or, emphasized bass presence may not be fully satisfied.

Those who prefer “highly clinical” reference detail in the treble; Hype 10 could well get you there on a highly resolved source device.

The sound impressions above are derived from critical listening sessions.

More importantly is that the Hype 10 captivates and draws me into the listening experience, and I don’t want to leave……

This is my first exposure to Thieaudio, and I’m happy I chose to take the journey.

At $899 usd retail we’re not talking chump change.

I feel the Hype 10 is capable of going toe to toe with competitors in its price class, and remain standing.

Enjoy your music. 👍🏽👍🏽

** Additional Source Devices:

👉🏼 iPhone 13, Lightning to 3.5 adapter, Qobuz.

Drives easily straight off phone, 60-75% volume.

Bass is loose and boomy.

Mids and Highs sound good, but lacks the detail and clarity delivered on a better source.

Some Android phones may fair better.🤷🏻‍♂️

👉🏼 iPhone 13, ddHiFi TC44Pro Lightning. Qobuz

Good listening levels below 50% volume setting.

Bass tightens up, more textured and less boomy.

Mids and Highs are more detailed and resolved.

Head stage starting to open up.

👉🏼 iPhone 13, IFi Hip DAC 3, 4.4 out.

Qobuz.

Strong listening volumes well below 50% on the volume knob.

** Independent volume control on Hip DAC, always a plus when using iPhone.

Bass is textured, deep and rich, good definition between sub and mid bass.

Mids and highs are clear and detailed.

Head-stage is fuller.

Overall a warm presentation.

** Note: last minute I tried power match on Hip DAC 3. Huge improvement in clarity and separation. Really improved spaciousness in the head stage. 👍🏽👍🏽

Conclusion.

Hype 10 drives reasonably easily and can be used straight off of a phone.

But, my impression is; Hype 10 benefits from a powerful source device capable of pushing all 12 drivers to full capacity.





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There is discussion that like PENON, ZiiGaat, and ThieAudio the drivers are not configured in a isobaric design and are in fact just two drivers face to face.

Why the conversation? - because Isobaric design has some merit and benefits. The clamshell design has none except output perhaps.

Companies love using terms maybe they should not and mislead consumers.

The only company who has come out with and proved thier design was 64 Audio so far.

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If you are interested in better H2 sound with improved resolution, treble, layering and soundstage, buy the SR DTE900 cable for H2.
Also very good synergy gives H2 with DDHiFi TC35 Pro (M) + iPhone (app with good files) + DTE900 cable = $500+ of technical feasibility.
With my other sources H2+ DTE900 cable also gives excellent results!
And yes, once again I find that the cable matters! I’ve tried over 10 cables with the H2 and they don’t give the same results as the DTE900 cable. I have never heard such a drastic improvement in sound quality and technical performance.
Enjoy! :notes: :guitar:

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The cable is surprisingly good isn’t it. It comes with most SR iem’s. I had it on the dte900 and SR8.

You can actually buy it standalone from a store on AE here: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EJ4uDpB.

I’m genuinely thinking of buying it, as I’ve sold both SR iem’s, so the cables went with them.

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I’m generally not much of a cable ‘believer’, aside from impedance changing sound slightly. I will admit though that the Sound Rhyme SR8 / DTE900 cable is easily been my favorite. I’ve never spent 100+ on a cable, but for a stock cable, it’s always been the one that seemed clearest out of everything I own. Plus it looks good and behaves nicely!

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I didn’t believe it either. I don’t get any improvement in sound about most IEMs with a cable change. But the H2 is a drastic improvement with this cable. The technical performance is way above the price with this cable. I almost couldn’t believe it when I tried it for the first time. Stunning! After an A/B test, the H2 blew away some more expensive IEMs! :eyes:
And one more thing - with a more powerful source it opens up a lot.
I don’t know if this will apply to the H4 :thinking: :expressionless:.

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Mmm yes, with the new combo the H2 blew everyone away, but it didn’t manage to dethrone the DTE900 (with the DUNU HULK pro mini cable - perfectly matched and softening the aggression). SR remains a beast at the top of IEMs with beastly technicality. :milky_way: :fire:

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According to Head-**, Linsoul is cheating/not fulfilling the purchase for people that ordered the Hype 4. No problems with the other models were mentioned.

Typical internet disclaimers for the above…

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I had a hype 4 on order and was asked politely to give them more time. I cancelled and got a hassle free 100% refund. I don’t think a conspiracy just for whatever reason they got delayed.

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Both Hype 4 and Hype 10 was on pre order and stated on Linsoul and on their AE shop from day 1 :smile:

Cancelled my Hype 10 order in the end and got refunded without any issues

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Seems good…

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