I certainly agree, for more context I thought it would be more practical if he was to keep his headphones and buy new ones.
The 6XX doesn’t have much in terms of sub bass you can “Hear” it but its not going to blow your socks off its a generally warm smooth headphone overall [This would be on solid state] It great for mid bass and specialises in vocals. With a tube its even warmer. Soundstage is elevated and sounds incredible. for a comparison it wouldn’t sound as crisp but with a tube amp it would surpass for clarity, vocals and match the mid bass.
Yes definitely. The Dekoni lambskin replacement pads I have on mine do exactly that. Highly recommended and super comfy. but they’re pricy. but worth it
Also if you need a killer imaging gaming combo with no too much treble to just win.
Koss KSC75 with Yaxi pads. very bass light, amazing imaging and treble and since its slightly off the ears you don’t get them sweaty
Best of all cheap
This is all really great information thank you so much. I was actually probably going to pick up some KSC75 for my Oculus Quest at some point so I’ll eventually try them.
Last question. what are yall’s opinions on the Beyer TYGR and the Monolith 1060/1070?
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Awesome, you’ll love them they’re the best. Definitely get the Yaxi pads
Skip the Monolith all together. too heavy, weird problems
The TYGR is great.
Just to update this, I took a big chance and got the HD6XX despite me thinking I might not like them. I think it’s such a widely known and beloved headphone that it will give me a great place to start and figure out where I want to go after that.
I will update this post once I receive them in about a month and let everyone know what I think of them just in case anyone is in the same boat as me.
I have the 6XX, the DT 770 (250) and the Sundara. Bought them in that order. The Sundara are my current DD for gaming on the PC, and everywhere else, as long as I don’t sit with company.
Powered by a Schiit Hel, I’m pretty happy with the result. I play a lot of Rocket League and Apex Legends. The 770s are also great, but getting used to the treble takes time…
I used to game with the 6XX, but stopped after getting the other two. I feel it’s a more… musical HP.
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Thought I posted but instead it sent someone a DM whoops sorry about that.
Hey there, I see you help many people and as most I am new to the audio world. Tired of the gimmick gaming headsets. I am for sure looking to purchase a Schiit stack. modi/magni combo. What headphones would pair nice to that combo?
Listen to all variation of music from rock, hip hop, and EDM
As for games the one most important at the moment is Apex Legends. So looking for something that will help identify footsteps and location of said footsteps. I also play RL, and other various games that audio does not make or break the competitive aspect.
Budget would like like to stay under $250, for sure not anything above $300 for now.
Appreciate your help/ advice and hope you have a great day
Cheers
You’re saying the Sundara’s soundstage is wider and bigger than the Dt 990?
I actually got it the other way around. Things could sound way further away on the DT 990 and the Sundara beeing better in Imaging and instrumental seperation.
Note: When I had both here I did not have the best amp to run either headphone, so my perception must not be right, that’s why I am askin’.
The combination might be tough to find, depending on your trebble sensetivity. For tracking footsteps you’d likely want somrthing that brings the trebble more foreward, but for the music you like to much of that could be a problem.
The TYGR could defently do what you want. IMO the DT 990 600 Ohm outperfomes the TYGR but the tonality is tricky as it is very bright. In combination with the Magni and mayber some EQ it might be an option tho.
So let’s say we take out the music aspect and I focus on finding the “best” cans for gaming for now and focus on music with another set of cans. I know best is a tough term because everybody’s ears are different.
Well the best sub 500 cans for gaming are kinda the DT 1990. Many agree on that. If you want to have something cheaper I think DT 990 600 Ohm with Modi/Magni 3+ are very good and wont disapoint. Beyers are just good with soundstage and pinpoint trebble imaging.
If you want to have what is almost a book about gaming headphones check out this:
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Hmm ok, this gives me some options and more to research. I appreciate your help.
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Might have been the amp, but yeah I absolutely got more space and stage in my sound out of the sundara. Separation was a bit better as well however imaging was better on the beyers for the most part.
outdated but I get told a lot it helps alot.
I wouldn’t say the 1990 is the best at being all rounded… T1 2nd gen I believe is a bit better in that regard… either way… 1990, T1, Elex, Sundara, 660S, nighthawk Carbon, and like a couple others(still waking up lol) are some of the best bets based on different signature and traits
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The treble sensitivity is what I was worried about with the DT990s and Beyers as well. I looked at the freq response of the HE400i 2020 which was already bordering on pretty bright for me and decided that it would probably be too much at least for my first and only pair of headphones. I’ll probably pick up the DT880 or DT990 600 ohm at some point to try so that I have both gaming and musical headphones in my lineup. Other than that, I think a lot of people have made a good case for the sundaras as well so I might look at them in the future as well. I can see why this hobby gets expensive for a lot of people lol.
Try the 880 first, a lot of people love it despite being bright… Sundara is about as bright as the 880 as well though the way they present sound is very different. Either one will work fine
That will be my next purchase then. You mentioned to be careful with the 600 ohm version, and I remember Z had said his THX or something wasn’t able to power them without distorting. Will the Heresy be able to drive them properly? or would the better bet be to get the 250 ohm version?
The heresy is just fine… while yes it does take quite some power to push the 600 ohm its not something as ridiculous as needing a speaker amp. All the entry levels can drive the 600 ohm beyers just fine, however the issue is just that the scaling and synergy that comes from the 600 ohm beyer is ridiculous… you gain quite a bit from upgrading the amp and dac later past the entry point such as to something like an asgard 3 or something in the upper price brackets of sorts
From what I head the Magni 3+ is actually supposed to pair a bit better with the beyers becuase it is a touch less aggressive or harsh tho while it has the same power.
Well then! Can’t wait to actually experience my Sundaras when the Asgard arrives.
The potential scaling of the DT 990 actually makes me wanna rebuy them… I do miss them sometimes.
So I just got my HD6XX last night. I got home from work and immediately started messing with them. I have the full Schiit stack now as well. Listening to them the first time, I was… unimpressed. Don’t get me wrong, they sound good, and I will definitely be keeping them, but definitely not what I was expecting.
I burned them in for about 6-7 hours with some pink noise and can hear a bit of improvement in the sound (to my ears) now but my thoughts are that I don’t like the small soundstage or intimate feeling. To me, it just sounds like the music lacks depth and I can’t really pinpoint what’s going on where. I have to admit, the vocals do sound like they’re inside my head though which is actually pretty nice, but everything else feels a bit jumbled when there’s a lot going on. I played a few games of Modern Warfare and was actually really impressed with the imaging. From what I recall, the imaging is way better than the 400i 2020s that I was using previosly.
Overall I think these are good headphones and some music just sounds amazing when there isn’t too much going on (at least to my ears). Instrumental music similar to the Naruto soundtrack where there is a bunch of wind and percussion instruments just sounds ethereal and as if I’m being cradled by the notes as they pass by my head. Guitar solos sound really great too. Really great and you can’t go wrong with them, But they aren’t really to my preference. Maybe over time, once my ears burn-in and the earpads get a little worn, I will start to prefer them you never know.
I think I will probably pick up the dt990 editions at some point just to have a “different” headphone. Thanks again to everyone that has helped me with a bunch of good information so far.