But the point of my comment was to spark outrage. You’re not playing along 
You guys haven’t heard music until you’ve heard it through Ultra purity OCC gold plated silver + golden ratio palladium plated silver & litz silver hybrid.
This configuration inherits Horus’s exquisite tuning and Leonidas II’s meticulous mid high to alleviate a wider soundstage. The ultra-depth in lows provides strong and fulfilling punch whereas the treble is buttery smooth producing pronounced, alluring vocals. The clarity in separation are truly emphasized with this fusion. It brings you to a whole new level of detailed sonic nuance in enormous soundstage.
You can’t tell me you don’t want one after reading that description. Hell… Get a few of them!
That cable will make my Tin P2 sound sweet!
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So basically I can get some $10 - $15 cans and listen directly off my desktop headphone output. And get that cable and smoke all you losers’ TOTL systems. Nice 
Sure. You might even benefit by bypassing the cans all together and drilling the cable connectors directly into your skull, attaining true cable tonality.
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Some one should do a mass spectrometry on that cable.
Audioholics is the place for no nonsense cable discussion.
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A fool and his money are easily parted…If I already had a quiver of TOTL IEM’s and source’s to match then i’d be all over that 
lol 
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Really LOLing with the online battle between GR research and Amir.
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the more this argument happens the more likely its going to end up with this:
They’re both missing the point.
#1 do speaker cables pick up noise (act as an antenna)? Yes. Danny even did a video example a few months back.
#2 does noise picked up by the speaker wire get back to the amp and get amplified? This I have not been able to find the answer to and Danny hasn’t shown either.
I do hope for all out sakes (entertainment 
) this blows up into a big cluster fuck that goes on for a while.
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Anyone who’s ever built a CNC machine can probably tell you that small signals will jump across wires running next to each other, as stepper motor signals cause false end stop triggers.
Discipline in running wires becomes critical in those environments.
And those cable lengths are shorter and voltages are less than what’s in most speaker cables.
The question is what the result of that cross talk is.
How audible it is and what the overall impact is.
RF is also an issue, but again how much.
Danny’s selling a particular view on cable topology, it tends to result in cables that have higher capacitance. This need not be an issue, but some amps don’t like that.
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One time when Amir actually provides meaningful data on a subject. The fact that speaker cables act as an antenna doesn’t meant that the signal they pick up is audible but the test Danny shows as his proof is comical to say the least. Sort of the same proof about the cables acting as an antenna which when connected to a speaker from an amp are meaningless because they’re inaudible both signal to ratio and frequency.
But I said the same thing as you, they’re talking past each other because they’re both half right.
In the end and this is the problem with cables in general. No one every provides the results of a controlled A/B/X testing with a meaningful number of data points. And you know why that’s never done by the people peddling $16,000 speaker cables.
That it sounds different doesn’t mean that it sound better or that people will prefer it over anything else. In the end as long as people are happy with their purchase, no judging. But unfortunately the snake oil industry survives only when it convinces you that the snake oil is better than whatever is it you’re currently using to fry your fish.
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AKA: Plankton
lol. They dont do this if you run standard ass ethernet cables for your wiring. We use cat5 for everything at work and shielded when we are around high output motors. Basically 0 noticeable signal interference outside of a couple of our electric breaks that will warp CRTs from 20 ft away
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This is exactly what I’m unclear on and haven’t been able to figure out from my research so far. From what I understand, amps with feedback shouldn’t have an issue with this but amps with minimal or no feedback (many tube amps - which btw happens to be what Danny uses), or amps with feed forward may be affected. However, I still don’t understand the mechanism that would cause an effect on the amp.
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My point wasn’t really about wiring routers, I’ve learned quite a lot since I built my first CNC machine 15 years ago.
It was about the fact if you run wires in parallel they do cross talk. It’s not something that is being made up here.
Ether net cables use twisted pairs to reduce noise and even without differential signalling they are pretty good at noise rejection.
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No. Im talking about CNC machines. Im an automation engr by trade. For data wiring we use cat5 and reterminate however we need to (typically split out the pairs at sensor/controls as needed and have an ethernet into the PLC/distro box)
EDIT: and yes, our PLCs account for twisted pairs, but that is mostly for source signal noise, not external noise. Shielding is far more effective at external source noise redution
This is entirely off topic, but.
Where do you find Cat5 with stranded conductors, all the bulk Ethernet cable I have here is solid core, which generally doesn’t play well with moving components.
I use shielded wire designed for for security systems these days, but there are times I wish it were more flexible.
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I would have to check who our supplier is (we have a massive spool thats been here far longer than I have) but I am nearly positive you can literally just order it on amazon