šŸ”¶ Mangird TEA (6 BA/1DD)

This. Yep.

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Timbre is the ā€œnaturalnessā€ of it, Tonality plays into this as well.

Tonality is subjective and depends on your library.
(which is also why when people (especially reviewers) claim something has great tonality without any mentions on what they are listening to makes me facepalm hardā€¦)

Where as timbre is simply if a particular instrument sound like it should (natural or not).

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I hope he means well but is mixing up/doesnā€™t understand the difference between frequency response and timbre.

Yes, this is exactly what I stated.

Distorted Electric Guitars on the Teas, without EQ, to me, do NOT sound natural.

It sounds muted and recessed.

Again, exactly what I stated previously.

Thatā€™s frequency response.

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Itā€™s because the tuning on Tea is laid back.

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Exactly. Itā€™s the frequency response of the Tea. Not timbre.

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Yes, thats the FR/Tuning/Tonality. NOT timbre.

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Ok, so if an instrument does not sound natural, what would you call that?

Itā€™s OK @Jman841 Jma Thatā€™s what weā€™re here for. To help you learn and understand. Iā€™ve learned a ton from lots of folks here especially @Rikudou_Goku

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And back to my whole point. The FR of the Tea sounds wrong and can be easily fixed with some EQ.

You are at the point of making up fake issues with EQ that are easily corrected for, like pre-amping your EQ settings and ensuring your are not overdriving the transducer.

Your OPINION is that EQ should not be applied, only as a last resort. Thatā€™s fine, we all have opinions, just be careful thinking your opinion is a fact.

For me, I can quickly A/B test an EQ setting and the Tea sounds much more natural to me with EQ. It instantly benefits from EQ for the songs I listen to and in my opinion.

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popcorn-girl

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Lol thatā€™s exactly me right now

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If an instrument is not clear or is buried when it clearly should be represented in a good earphone/headphone with proper FR, that is an issue with frequency response.

If an instrument sounds metallic, or plastic sounding vs how we expect it to sound, those are issues with the transducer being able to properly convey that instrument with proper timbre.

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Imma head out. So I will reinforce what @Resolution have said before: Teaā€™s probably not your ideal tuning if you think itā€™s better when you EQā€™d it.

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So to fix this, we can just apply EQ correct?

Hence why I suggested it and do it.

Iā€™m not sure why youā€™re so upset over the use of EQ? The idea that someone just needs to keep buying more IEMā€™s to find the perfect tuning when we can easily adjust the FR with EQ to fix muted frequencies is Ludicrous.

You can do whatever you want with your earphone and your EQ. But getting back to the heart of this conversation is thatā€¦

Is not true.

Not the timbre issues. Those are not fixable with EQ. FR issues are up until a certail point, when the transducer fall apart.

I already corrected this by rephrasing as ā€œThere is no downside riskā€. Please see my previous post.

Fine, not a timbre issue, doesnā€™t change the fact that EQ greatly improves the sound and makes distorted guitars sound more natural (I guess this is not timbre?) of the Tea for my library and there is no downside risk to testing it.

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Maybe for your library and for your personal preferences. I have no issue with this statement at all. Enjoy your Tea. :slight_smile: Test away. If you like what EQ does to your earphones, have at it. Just know that it can have negative effects on the quality of the music especially if the transducer cant handle it and also please donā€™t talk about the Tea to others without telling people you are adjusting itā€™s FR through EQ. How you describe it will obviously be different than what others are hearing.

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