Upgrading DT1990?

I was hoping the Sundara would be better in price to performance and Sound quality, which isnt the case unfortunately

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i guess, what iā€™m honestly trying to say is to get your priorities sorted out first
an then decide what to buy

Well Yeah Im waiting for the price of Focal Clear to drop or get a nice Deal on eBay, which is not Happening any time soon. So while I wait, Im trying to optimize my setup in any way possible

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well itā€™s hard to say. because even if something isnā€™t a step up (in technicalities) if you like the sound signature it could be a step-up. personally i prefer the ksc 75 to even the 58x and 4xx even if itā€™s not as good. so that could be something to consider (not the 75 but going off your preferences in sound sig)

gotcha, fair enough

You prefer the ksc75 over 58x?? How come? I might even buy it to get myself some IEMs on the go

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so i do like every sound signature iā€™ve heard. except strong v shapes but basically i just found out that i kind of lean towards neutral/bright if i have the chance. i do like warmth ALOT but i basically find myself picking brighter/neutral with forward vocals when i have the chance lol. I didnā€™t see too big a difference in detail between the 75 and 58x either tbh. now iā€™m in the same situation where i own the carbon nighthawks and the sundara and both are pretty competitive with eachother but i found myself picking the sundara more since itā€™s neutral and the vocals are forward enough

so basically, if you find the 1990 too piercing, you might want to find something that is bright but smoother and so on. even if itā€™s not as good technically as the 1990. but i do know that you donā€™t mind eq and even physical filters so i donā€™t necessarily think thatā€™s the right call either. since you should be good in that department.

it does serve the portability purpose of an IEM but itā€™s form factor is a bit different. like a headphone hovering over your ears

Thatā€™s a big can of worms too but Chifi do offer a great sonic bang for buck no question :+1:

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Iā€™m trying to optimize my dac right now.
I would like to replace my AuneX1s for a dedicated dac.
Do you think I can get away with something like this?
DACs do sound all the same anyway right??
Would this DAC bottleneck a Focal Clear + RNHP combo?
Or the DT1990 + SP200 combo?

Yes, I would instead grab something like a topping e30 and go from there. You want to get a solid enough dac I what I was saying, I think there isnā€™t a large difference moving from the 100 dollar known good dacs to the 200 range.

Just to clarify, it would also bottleneck the DT1990+SP200 combo too?
Due to region, Topping prodcuts are not available for me. I have to get it shipped from China, which I try to avoid. What do you think about the SMSL M100? Audible difference to this?
Would the SMSL M100 be similiar to Topping E30?

Can you get a smsl Sanskrit 10th mk2? So all the dacs will make an audible difference, just not as large as the amp will in this budget range, I think in the future you could grab a soekris 1421 or a bifrost 2 dac to upgrade it later on, but that would be after an amp upgrade imo. I havenā€™t heard the tiny dac you have linked, so I canā€™t comment on it

DT1990 FR itā€™s so wrong for gaming, I need to use -10db at 7.9khz and -8db at 15khz to hear footsteps in games. Even for some music, the treble is just unbearable. I liked it so much at first, but I started to doubt my purchase.
And build quality ? Iā€™m always afraid when Iā€™m taking it with one hand that it will split in two, because the cups can move way too much into one another. Also the outer cable, I need to be careful not to touch it by mistake so I wouldnā€™t rip it off when adjusting position from time to time. I know I need to use two hands, but please stop the praise about build quality.
HD800 ?! I own both and I will say HD800 has greater price/performance ratio than DT1990.
Anyway, I prefer JBL LSR 305 over HD800 or DT1990.

You forgot to say In Your Opinion.

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Measurements also show that DT1990 FR is just trash https://www.dropbox.com/s/iygti2oktm185q8/Beyerdynamic%20DT1990%20(Velours%20Earpads)%20(5%20Band%20EQ).pdf?dl=0
Massive peak from 7 to 9khz and very boosted treble above 10khz, even going up to 16db boost at 17khz. Now you know which frequencies give ā€œaggressivenessā€ to these headphones. With EQ their signature change a lot but is much more enjoyable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets

You forgot to say In your opinion again.

I didnā€™t made those measurements.

You are interpreting them yourself though, the measurements are just points on a graph, itā€™s up to the person to interpret if thatā€™s actually a good or bad thing for them

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