What goes around comes around 
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just add a filter 
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Itās more about doing my due diligence before I reject all-BA sets completely. Iām trying to find one that Iād actually want to keep in my collection.
It hasnāt happened yet but Iām trying to keep an open mind
That affects bass perception too though: if I perceive more upper mids at 3k because of HRTF, I wonāt perceive the bass the same as someone less sensitive
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you are 100% right, i fully forgot that point. like if i boost the upper regions by eq, the focus of my brain shifts to the upper regions so the bass will be less prominent and visa versa.
Which is why Iām getting into flattening things more and just letting the tracks be the tracks.
Calling 8-10dB of pinna gain āneutralā or āuncoloredā is so inaccurate. That is colored AF, to the upper registers and it overwhelms all the information and texture to be found in the low ranges.
I love having some sets that are low-end focused, midrange emphasized, v-shape, and boosted treble.
I donāt have to love every flavor of ice cream but life would be boring if there was only one or two flavors to eat. And I feel the same about IEMs
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Bro get these off of J
If still available? and do your filter thing, a unicorn set as is
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Those are a curiosity, but theyāre just gonna be a flattened bass version of my Flatland Panda modā¦so yeah, Iāll leave that to someone else lol
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i said its neutral to my ears. neutral is so hard to define in this hobby.
- some iems are tuned to harman target. harman is not studio neutral but its close to a far field listening experience to flat speakers WITH subwoofers in a litely treated room. harman target mainly boosts subbass to avoid anything sounding anemic and recreate the natural room gain, mids and upper mids are close to diffuse field target and the treble lacks(or not) depending on your hrtf. so harman can absolutely be considered neutral or āneutralā sounding to most people but to me its not, to me its like u shaped really.
- df tuned iems= flat bass, they try to recreate that feel of speakers nearfield and when they are eqed to remove room effects. they are considered neutral too if you re an extremist or used to listening to smaller studio monitors at a close distances with corrction. so these can be neutral or natural too to some people.
- some iems have the middle ground, like blessing 3s bass comes to my mind, its boosted but it remain somehow at a reasonable level for neutral sound seekers (this is the closest to neutral to me)
- some iems have glided bass, so if you flatten their response they will have that natural downward sloping response thats unlike tucked iems that have a hole around 200 to 500hz, this can be fully considered norm and neutral too.
-some even say why even compare iems to speakers because they wanna hear the way instruments sound irl in iem form but how you gonna do that?, instruments sound VERY different depending on room and their surroundings also one fr canāt fit all instruments and you gotta have a dead neutral fr to achieve a natural timbre but thats not possible( next point) - some say why even bother with generalization since we have different hrtf so you can never have a fully neutral iem and fr.
Thatās precisely why I used the word inaccurate. There isnāt a good way to gauge what is a neutral sound from you to me, so using that standard is a fallacy at best. The times I use it is only because it is a known-enough nomenclature so people can have a frame of reference. Even if that frame of reference is inherently busted.
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Not the bass lolā¦reign in the P1 1.5k rise and 6k spike and there we go
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OG P1 is the only set I remember that I NEEDED to tame the upper-treble peak, that thing is deadly there.
Bass is anemic af thoughā¦
The successor, Plus, version is a much better set that fixes the faults of the OG set imo.
Sub yes but that will depend on your library and sourceā¦og given enough 
tube hybrid source offer some of the fastest and detailed replay iāve heard from an IEMā¦ a set Iād never part withā¦but yeah I can see why folks donāt like them, theyāre a niche set and thank fuck for that 
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Although I still really dont think @GooberBM needs another flat planar. And I dunno how many BA-iems he has but I would have stayed far away from them.
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Rush? An exception.
Bass guitars generate subharmonics. The open E string is 40 Hz with a subharmonic generated at 20 Hz. The open B is 30.8 Hzā¦Those fundamentals and subharmonics are below the mid bass.
Yes, the limitations of audio equipment at THOSE times called for eq.
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its not that they got 0 subbass. i see frequencies go down to 50 hz on my audio spectrum( lower harmonic gyitars, synths, bass guitars etcā¦) but those frequencies are very hard to hear on those older recordings, i think the volume of lower frequencies are so low compared to upper frequencies.
P1 would purely be a curiosity. Donāt want it, and Iām personally unsatisfied with BA sets so I havenāt found one to keep
Yeah, although in your case all those BA iems you heard are demoes from your tour group isnt it? At least you are lucky you havent burnt money on itā¦
(I probably spent at least 1k on just BA iemsā¦)
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Teamwork makes the dream work
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This, if an iem does the base right for me and doesnāt spike treble I can give it a shot. If itās too lean, I just instantly hate it. I can eq with the best of them, but why should I? >.>
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