The Reds have a fat, long nozzle. They fit too deep for me and caused me pain.
But that length may be what’s needed to keep an IEM in your ear. Might want to focus on that more than the hump.
Just a thought … good luck!
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Yeah, thats another great point. I think the deep fitting stuff I prefer honestly. I only bring up the hump because the zero has literally 0 hump so its like no interference. I guess my question is what are some examples of deep fitting iems? I know moondrop stuff, the davinci, but not too sure what other brands/models are deep fitting. Or I guess what would be a good way to tell if an IEM will be a deep fit.
Etymotic is the king of deep fit. Tickles the side of your damn brain! 
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Honestly, I think I needed something small since I bought the ie200 for a p good deal (80 usd). I love these things they are honestly so comfortable. I got the dunu s&s ear tips as well and i have had these on for hours without any adjustment. That small shape just works perfect.
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Ah, excellent news, man! Glad you found a solution. That’s a fine price for a nice IEM. Dunu S&S are among my favorite tips, too.
Hell of a combo. Enjoy!