I use APO with Peace Extension.
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I3 is an tribrid with a planar (dd planar ba). Am I mistaking?
It isnât a straight comparison.
How is it crossovers? Each component do what
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All owners, no review shills so itâs safe ( there are not enough stocks for that 
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Also
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2386473901653225
This can and does contain shills but the majority are chifi enthusiasts and have been for many many years.
Check both of them out for a broad view of the set. 
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Finally received my set. Unfortunately, itâs one of the bad QA sets
The quality control issue is the casing comes apart. Mine only happens with the left hand side
Waiting to hear back from Shen Zhen Audio to see what theyâll do
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Thatâs a bummer. Maybe try putting them back with instant super glue?
Does it come completely apart? Would be interesting to see the driver and any acoustic filters/treatment etcâŠ
Hopefully youâll get a replacement soon!
Iâll wait to hear back from Shen Zhen Audio first before I put too much glue on and seize up the driver
It doesnât completely come apart, kinda stuck with that gap. I havenât tried to apply force to see if it comes completely apart (yet)
Hoping they will just send a single replacement drive, so thereâs less going to landfill
If I get a replacement, will definitely try to crack the IEM open and take some photos for you guys
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This really hurts my feelings since i just received the Timeless 2 days ago. How much did they pay you, HOOOOW MUUUUCH 
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Joking aside, race can be won by a milisecond, or can be lost by not finishing at all. So finding a way to quantify things imo would be better.Maybe 10 mark scale? This way looks too absolute and not fully informative.
Imaging aside since that part doesnt bother me, by how much(if you can quantify) is the i3Pro better, and do i want it given i already have the timeless?
And back on the rating topic, what if there is a price difference between 2 iems, when quantified it would be easier to decide say if the price of the better rated one is higher, do i want to pay the premium for the better rated one or do i want to save few bucks by not sacrificing much.
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That is still just a short to TLDR summary of the comparison that I have after comparing them on time specific tracks.
They are based on sound only. Price does not matter on that conclusion.
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They have arrived. No shell issues.
Iâm using the balanced cable with the L&P W2. They are driven with ease and with plenty of authority.
My quick first impressions are in comparison to my Aonic 5âs.
They are just as detailed, if not, even more so. Very resolving.
Timbre is much more natural, more like a really clean DD than multi-BA.
Imaging and separation are excellent within the soundstage.
Soundstage is wide but shallow, like an oval rather than a sphere (see image)
Soundstage has a lot of height.
Tonality, well, just what I was looking for, much like the SE846 but with treble extension.
They are dynamic, they are energetic if they need to be. Almost a touch too forward.
Fit is fine, you donât notice them after a while.
Isolation is okay, probably 1/2 as good as Shureâs.
Frequency range sweep Iâm perceiving 14Hz to 17.5Khz, Big peak at 8.5Khz and 11Khz.
(SE846, 20Hz-15.5Khz; Aonic 5, 17Hz-16.5Khz)
Bass is controlled and tight but feels a little pushed (forced, eager) at the moment but that may be noticing the effects of compression on the mix?
Overall Iâm impressed so far. Iâll give them more time but nothing big is standing out as a problem so far.
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One quick issue, Iâm getting EMI buzz when I plug my Surface Pro into the charger. This is only a problem with the Timeless. Iâve tried cables I know I donât have the issue with on other IEMâs, so Iâm guessing this might be a planar thing? If I touch the 4.4mm Jack the buzz goes away. Iâll try a USB cable with ferrite beads on it.
Anyone else such issues?
Are the cables good? Did you tried cable swapping?
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7Hertz Timeless - Reviews | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org
Rank: B
Probably the first planar iem with good tonality, but oh boy is it butchered by the almost zero depth stage and a result, horrible imaging.
Skip it unless you are rich (although you would have better options to get in that case) or if you really want a planar iem without using EQ (if you can use EQ, the Tin P1 is better, or if you are ok with just it having a planar, the tribrid Tri I3 Pro will be leagues better).
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Yeah tried two other known good cables and also tried the Timeless cable on other IEMâs. Only the Timeless has this issue.
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Some IEMs are just more sensitive to things like that you could always try
This has helped or outright fixed buzzing or other noise floor issues on multiple IEMs I have and also allowed me to use amps that would have been too powerful to get any useful volume control. It will lower the max volume so it might not help in specific circumstances.
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âhuge soundstage and fantastic imagingâ df⊠this is the total opposite of what @Rikudou_Goku says. Sounds like people are getting different units.
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Iâve now had more time to A/B against the Aonic 5âs and they sound unbelievably similar I was having a hard time choosing one over the other. In fact at times where I wasnât paying much attention, I forgot which pair I had in!
The 7Hz bass has shown me that the Aonic does have the sub-bass and is just as linear but not quite as prominent. So that doesnât bother me as I think the Aonic is a touch more detailed/faster.
The two points that swung it towards the Aonic 5 for me are:
- Male voices in certain situations can sound a bit thin strangely, and female voices can sometimes edge on a weird sibilance (but not really), or sort of âmouseyâ squeak. The Aonic 5 presents the voices better and where the 7Hz squeak, thereâs actual detail on the Shures.
- The soundstage just doesnât cut it. I listened to a lot of Roger Waters (Pros & Cons, Amused to Death) and although things arenât out of place they just donât have the depth and therefore separation, but itâs a hard call most of the time.
These are minor complaints. Plus just the overall feel and quality of the Shureâs makes me feel more confident in them.
Iâm certain the 7Hz Timeless are a safe and confident choice for most genres except maybe orchestral stuff and music that requires a soundstage depth, otherwise hard to fault for me.
IF I didnât have the Aonic 5âs already (with warranty etc) and was choosing between the two just now, Iâd probably choose the 7Hz and save ÂŁ300. In fact, definitely!
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Hm. I wonder how the soundstage of my unit is gonna turn out. Letâs hope the QC is getting better.
