Hmmm that’s not bad for an all in one solution. That would be the most warm and thick sounding, pretty organic, and also lots of impact, the most spacious. The rhead + interface would be clean and also sweet sounding, but not as much body as the asgard + multibit, but also a bit more forward in it’s detail, but a bit more closed off
The g111 is very neutral, with great impact and speed, and timbre and spatial recreation is very good as well. It’s not going to be as colored as the asgard or rhead imo, but still enjoyable
My intention was that I just didn’t want a completely clinical amp. I mean for under 500$ I could easily get a THX 789 or the SMSL or Monoprice version, but I don’t really care about the amp being super accurate. I just want an amp that sounds fun and I thougt class a could serve me in this regard.
Gotcha, out of that then, I think the asgard with the multibit would be the most fun combo with the headphones you have. The arcam would also be fun but you would want to grab the modi multibit with that as well if you wanted it to be more fun as the focusrite might be a bit more harsh
Okay then thank you very much @M0N and also @MazeFrame for helping me out with finding a fitting product. I will order it soon and if it really has a thicc and organic sound it will be perfect one for me.
Hello,
I come from Germany too.
Take a look to schiit europe.com with google for the Asgard 3.
Is a European seller.
The price is inclusive witth the tax and pay only the shipping cost.
Other option is a Dac/amp from Beresford caiman or only Headphone amp,Beresford capella from England.
They have a warm and natural sound with a good stage.
Otherwise a Jan Meier Jazz or Rock FF from Germany.
Project debut headbox as only amp for 130€ is not bad.
I am not sure but Topping brings soon a L30 Headphoneamp.
They can be a option.
Hey Deleeh,
I’ve looked up the european Schiit page (schiit-europe.com) and most of their products, including the Asgard 3, are sold out at the moment. I mean that’s not the problem, but I am confused that you can only buy they Asgard 3 and the Multibit DAC separatly. The Asgard is currently at 259€ and the Multibit at 249€. That is slightly out of my budget, but not to world-shattering. So I basically have to install the module myself. I watched a little tutorial and you take the cover off, take off the sticker on the back and slide the pins of the DAC into the slot of the Asgard and screw it down, right?
I read a review about the Jan Meier Jazz and the reviewer said that it sounds “bright and clear, but it is not exhausting to listen to”. I think that just by reading what the reviewer said it wouldn’t be exactly what I search for.
The Pro Ject Head Box seems to not have the power to push my 250Ohm DT990 to the volume I like them to be. It only puts out 60mw into 300Ohm so I think it won’t push 250Ohms much farther. But please correct me if I’m wrong. I just want to have a bit of headroom when using my headphones and I don’t want to push it to 90 or 100% all the time.
You also pointed out that the Beresford Caiman could be an option and it seems to have enough power for my demands. However I’ve read that the internal DAC isn’t that good and it is obviously not a Schiit Multibit with all the filtering and stuff.
Hello,
You can write a mail on Schiit Europe and ask how long is the Shipping time when you give a order before.
Otherwise buy directly on Schiit.
My Schiit loki and Vali2 comes in 6 days.The tax was not expensiv in this time.
An other option for you is Buy the Dac seperatly,and the Amp seperatly.
So you can keep the Dac, and search a better Headphoneamp who have more power for your privilege.
Is maybe the better option for you in the and.
For example the Topping E30 with the jds labs atom.
Hey Deleeh,
yes you are right that buying a separat amp and dac makes me way more flexible in the future. I thought about doing this, but I am planning to use the Asgard 3 multibit as my daily driver and don’t wanna swap it out in the next few months or maybe even years. If I don’t like the Asgard, I will just return it to shit as they have 14 to 15 days return policy and buy another amp.
Thanks for letting me know about the tax. So do I understand it correct that you ordered from Schiit’s main page? I was wondering, because the tax should already be included when you order from schiit-europe.
Now back to the separat dac-amp topic. Which dac would you suggest to use paired with the Asgard 3 as just an amp (because let’s face it, it puts out 3.5W RMS into 32 ohms I don’t need more power than that and I will stick with it) and what dac will still sound as fun as the included multibit dac? I understood that the multibit circuitry doesn’t work as flawless as a “normal” Delta-Sigma dac, but this behavior makes it sound as musical as it is.
Hey @M0N,
do you think it would be an option to first buy the Asgard 3 without dac and buy a comparable dac (maybe also a mutlibit one) afterwards. I thougt about it, because the only thing that really botheres me with the Asgard multibit is the fact, that it just has one digital input, in this case obviously the usb port. I’d like the option to maybe switch sources and have an extra digital coaxial and spdif input. It’s not a must for me in this case, but ist there an option that performes as well as the multibit and has more inputs to offer?
Hey,
okay thanks I appreciate the information. But do you pay the tax on the original price (in this case 399 or 199$) or do you have to pay tax on the converted price in euros?
I saw the review on the Topping E30 by Zeos and if i remeber correct he was pretty positive about it. I will keep it in mind.
No you pay the Tax to Fedex or Ups.You become a letter with the invoice.And pay it to this company.or in Germany maybe directy on the postman when it comes with Dhl.
Or you must go to the custom office.
Is depend,schitt has send it with Fedex and i recived a letter with the invoice.And you pay in Euro.
It give a webside who you can calculate the Tax in your land when you place a order from a other land who is not in the EU.
Yeah no problem, I don’t see any issues with that, you could grab something like a topping e30 and be set imo, I don’t think it would be as fun as the multibit, but I do think it’s still a warmer more enjoyable dac and it is more detailed than the multibit
I know that I initially created this topic to find a headphone amp, but I feel like it would be good to finish my plans.
If I just buy the Asgard to start with, I’d like to then save up for a dac that’s better than the e30. I know it’s not bad but why not. I have 3 dacs at around 300$ on my mind which have all the inputs i want to have. The Topping D50s, the JDS Labs EL DAC II and the Aune X8. I know that on top of DSD and all that magic stuff (which the other 2 also offer) the D50s also has an integrated LDAC with, obviously, bluetooth. A neat feature considering I also own Sony wh1000xm3s. Is there anything that the EL DAC II and the X8 can offer that could stop me from saving for a D50s? Is the D50s a good adition to the Asgard? Or is there any advantage over the e30 that me as a beginner would even notice?
So I will just say from experience that you would be spending in the 700 range to get a significant upgrade for your dac, the El dac ii, aune x8, and d50s are all nice, but are very marginal upgrades to where I would suggest you put that money in cans or put it towards a higher tier amp. I think to get a significant upgrade on the dac side of things you would want to look at like a soekris1421, ares ii, or bifrost 2 imo (with the ares and bifrost being up your alley imo).
If you wanted to add Bluetooth, I think grabbing an ifi Zen blue for the e30 would be my pick as you can scale later on with dacs
I see your point, but I really want the dac to have both usb and coax, but the zen blue does not have usb. I just found the D50s 50€ cheaper on amazon than it is on Toppings web site, which now makes it 250€. Considering that the Asgard also costs me 250€ I would be in my budget just perfectly. The zen blue costs 150€ in Germany, so I will just take the hit of 100€ for better build quality, a better design imo and the display, aswell as the better controllability with the stick on the front.
Maybe it’s not the smartest move if i want to spend as little as possible, but I think for me it is worth the extra money.
I still appreciate your help and your experience.
