I hear you! I have several pairs of headphones with Very different sounds. It is like getting a new headphone every couple of weeks.
Hey, I already posted this in the LCD-X thread, but Iâll try here as well.
I want to buy Audeze yoke parts for a Hifiman headband mod, but Audeze told me I need to actually own an Audeze with proof of purchase to get these certain yoke replacements. Would any LCD-2C owners here be willing to help me out and order the yoke parts for me from Audeze? Please PM me if so, thanks.
Hello,
I have a question because Iâm not sure if itâs pschoacustic or not.
Is it possible that the original Audeze headphone cable colours the sound a little?
How do I get to it?
I bought a silver cable months ago and it somehow sounds more right to my ears, maybe there is a little less bass impact but otherwise I find it right.
With the Audeze cable, I think there is something that is not right.
So the second question is whether it makes sense to try a different copper cable or is it really psychacutical?
Has anyone tried a different copper cable and can confirm or deny whether I am wrong?
This topic is subject to a lot of debate. While measurements donât show differences, high purity single crystal Ohno Continuous Cast wires are indeed better conductors scientifically. Whether the improvement in sound is noticeable for a human is not certain. I suggest you get someone to help you do a blind test. In a blind test I was able to tell between the stock cable of a cheap 90 dollar Chinese headphone and an upgrade cable. But the Audeze stock one already looks very good so I doubt it is worth upgrading
Hmm,okay.
I didnât want to make a world theme out of it .
It was more an objective question that I personally perceive subjectively.
And I wondered if others felt the same or similar or if it might really be psychoacoustic.
I donât doubt the work of the Audeze guys either.
There are certainly manufacturers who reach into their bag of tricks a bit.
They may have tried a few things when developing the prototype, but I donât necessarily want to pay too much for it.
I donât necessarily want to spend a lot of money, or who knows, maybe even a copper cable is not what the Audeze cable offers, which would be just as possible the other way round.
I might have to build one myself to find out.
And I have the Sommercabel or Mogami cable floating through my head.whether it was worth it will be somewhere else.
I might have to ask Audeze themselves what they think about it and get an answer this way without having to spend money.
Of course you are also right cable sound is always an issue.
For my Fostex headphones I am an absolute fan of Viablue cable.
Hey everyone. I read on a couple of other places that there has been a silent revision on the LCD 2-C. From pictures it seems obvious that the pads have been updated with slimmer ones like on the latest LCD-X revision that I saw on Joshuaâs channel. I also trust that the head-band has seen a small upgrade.
Personally I feel a little sad that the pads have been trimmed but it seems like they slightly improve the sound, although no one has really done an A-B between the two models.
Some people claim that the magnets have seen a change as well like on the LCD-X but other say no. Someone else said that his review model shipped with a new âeconomyâ case but on Audeze website this isnât mentioned and others gave a negative as well.
What do you think? I am leaning heavily on buying a set before summer ends but this update confuses things a little.
Iâm late to this discussion but after reading your post I thought, exactly my feelings.
Like you my biggest disappointment was the bass. After all the hype , it was a let down.
Itâs clean, undistorted linear bass, but lacks in quantity.
My speculation is that the hype comes from people who donât appreciate a lot of bass.
Either that or people who use eq on every headphone, so boosting the bass is an after thought.
The rest of your description again, is exactly what I would say.
Late with my response, I just discovered this thread.
I have to disagree with people who say these headphones are bass monsters, unless theyâre referring to bass quality. As far as bass quantity goes, as compared to hundreds of consumer closed backs, the lcd2c will have less bass.
There are many open backs that have more bass than the lcd2c. The Philips fidelio x2 and many Beyerdynamic open backs have more bass. Of course, none of these are planar.
You may have already discovered this.
It doesnât mean you wonât like the lcd2c once your ears adjust to this.
Hey I appreciate the reply. Actually itâs not too late because I have been struggling with pulling the trigger on these headphones up until now
Anyway in the end I was too scared to go straight to these so I decided to order Sundaras to try first (still waiting for them )
Eh, comparing it to Fidelio X2 is laughable. X2 have bloated mid bass, and none of the sub-bass of the LCDs.
Getting the sundaras is a good idea. It will let you hear what the bass on a planar sounds like compared to the bass on most consumer closed backs.
Most ,if not all, planars have lean tight bass relative to closed backs.
But once you get used to that you might end up liking the sundaras.
They have more treble than the lcd2c but you might not mind. You might even like that.
Either way, whether you end up liking the sundaraâs or not, Itâs a good place to start hearing planar as opposed to dynamic open backs and closed backs.
The sundaraâs get a lot of praise for a planar at Itâs price point.
Half true. You could say the x2 has bloated mid bass, but Itâs not crazy bloated unless your comparing them to other headphones like the lcd2c or most other open backs.
Half not true. The x2 has just as much sub bass as the lcd2c.
Once you get to the basement of sub bass,20hz to 30hz, the lcd2c may have 1db to 2db more output.
When listening to music that has 20hz to 30hz basement bass it will sound louder on the lcd2c because Itâs not drowned out or masked as much by the higher bass frequencies.
I own Fidelio X2, LCD-X and TH900 (pretty good closed backs in terms of bass quantity). Fidelio got nothing on them, Iâm sorry. They got bloat, a little bit of punch but nothing compared to TH900 or the LCD-X. (I know weâre talking about 2C, but theyâre fairly similar to the X). It also depends on how you power them. Planars in general tend to sound kind of lean if they donât get enough current.
(Also if you enjoy the X2s, keep using them! Sorry my messages sounded rather aggressive. Iâm short on time haha)
Kingstoler
If the th900 is a closed back, I have no doubt they have more bass than any of the other 3 headphones.
Comparing the graphs made at crinnacle for the lcd2c and the lcdcx, the lcdx do look very close to the lcd2c except the lcdx have more bass.
I would probably prefer the lcdx for that reason, but if Iâm not mistaken the X costs 2x the price of the 2c. Oh well thatâs to be expected.
Planars do have tighter, cleaner bass than most dynamic hps. I would expect that would explain the FIDELIO x2 sounding looser, more bloated than the lcd2c, and I would take your word for it, the same as compared to the lcdx
With all do respect, in this case , the amplification is not going to make the difference.
Power the lcd2c and the lcdx from the same amp and the lcd2x is going to have more bass than the lcd2c, if I can believe the crinnacle graphs.
Itâs just a fact that headphones are designed so that some will have more bass output than others.
The th 900 closed back you mentioned, is that a Fostex headphone? Youâve peaked my curiosity.
Cheers
Fully agree, i had they LCD2C and i currently have the LCD-X and both are bass light imo (basshead).
The upside though is that planars take EQ like champs, i have a huge low shelf EQ for the LCD-X and it sounds phenomenal, i dislike it without EQ.
I donât consider my self an outright bass head unless preferring Harmon target bass is considered bass head.
I 'm also into bass more than treble though. I donât prefer bright headphones over bassy headphones.
Iâll have to try a 3db to 4db bass shelf on the lcd2c. That should bring it more in line with the Harmon target bass response.
I have around +10dB bass boost for both the 2C and the X, that is why i consider myself a basshead. I dont trade technicalities for bass though, that is why i love the X, i can have superb bass + all the Xâs qualities.
Wow, thatâs quite the bass boost. You are indeed a bass head.
As you say , you still have high quality with the lcdX.
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