Yeah, technicalities arent stuff you can tell from a graph. Although certain stuff do have some implication. Like having a lot of upper-treble will help the micro-details and making it sound airier overall. Boosted bass and recessed mids are a typical way of having a bigger soundstage.
I was more just being a smat-aleck⊠but there is a bit of truth. You can skew the scaling on a graph to make something look better or worse, you can ask the right people the right questions to get the answers you wantâŠ
Basically if you donât trust the person/entity that is producing a statistic/graph you should also question the statistic/graph.
For audio gear I donât trust company produced frequency graphs and I tend to trust reviewer graphs when I see they have a track record of making repeatable tests.
Graphs can give you a good indication of overall tonality & frequency response.
Looks like Iâll be makin some graphs of my own!
I agree in part obviously some factors can not be determined by a graph In this branch of the hobby they are technicalities . The fact is these really require listening something absent in personal audio. I have been an audiophile for a long time and do miss demos though they were flawed by what the room was like and the quality of the store.
10 more days to MELE
Iâll just leave my 2 cents on the fountain, even if Im newcomer compared to most people here.
Graphs dont tell the whole story, but they make the first chapters. They give you a picture, a description. Then you take drivers into consideration. DD bass is different than BA bass or BA treble is different than ESTsâ.
Once you add all that, you already have half of the story. Sure you still canât judge it by the cover. Speed, stage, imaging, etc, but it points in a direction.
A good example of this is the budget king Blon-03. Good graph, good timbre, cheap technicalities, loved all over.
The oposite side of the story:
You can tell already a lot from this. If you are, for instance a bass head, you know with 99% confidence this is a set to avoid. If you are an EST treblehead like me⊠Well, this is garbage. I donât care about technicalities if it sounds bad to me. I donât care about bass being fast if itâs non-existant.
So yeah, only half story, but avoids blind buys. This is why reviewers like @hawaiibadboy are so important in the comunity. Sure, you might agree or disagree with his aproaches and opinions, but he talks about MUSIC. Even if your library is different than is, like more than half of mine, you have points of guidance. Every top reviewer should have measures of what they are reviewing. This is the reason iâm getting EC711 next month, and I donât plan to review.
2 cents out, peace!
(MELE ON 20TH )
I was talking about your own upcoming personal impressions of it, but if itâs going to be the same as Chrisâs then I guess itâs good!
I guess itâs official, cables do make a difference⊠To the marketing department at least.
Fiio - âCompared with the FD3, the FD3 Pro comes with warmer vocals and higher resolution capacity in high frequencies when equipped with a pro-grade cable.â
Iâd really enjoy to see proof of such a statement.
âhigher resolution capacityâ??? What does that even mean? There might be some source or some amp or some dac that might make the FD3 sound more higher resolution but only with the âproâ cable? But just in high frequencies? What frequencies? 20K? Cause I can only hear to 16K.
I guess itâs official, Iâm done with Fiio. Pure and complete marketing bullshit at its finest.
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I also find it really interesting how their âentry levelâ product can be pro at any level? I guess this pro cable is really something else.
This is FiiO and weâre here today to say that FiiOâs products are great but are even better when bought with added FiiO accessories. Thank you for listening to our unbiased purchasing advice.
Not that Iâd trust any difference shown bythem, but have they at least pretended to release two different FR graphs to back up their upsell?
Edit: Ah youâve got the same question on your mind.
Please link to it.
I was asking the same question as you: whether they were going to at least mock up something that shows their claim. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I guess on HF for the most part they know their words will go unchallenged, I doubt theyâll bother.
No one there wants to be the child telling the emperor theyâre not sure the cable changed anything.
I really wish companies wouldnât do BS like this, if they just said âThe FD3 Pro comes with a nicer cable and an exclusive colorâ then honestly it would probably be enough for some consumers to go $40 is fine for that.
So they now go into my list of companies that I donât believe a word they say, but if they make a good product I will still buy it⊠they have good company in that list Apple is definitely in there as well.
Gotchya. How can they when itâs absolute bullshit? Itâs complete marketing bullshit.
People are asking why they are selling two different products, and instead of simply saying that the pro cable is prettier and has interchangeable connections, why not add in itâs a total possibility that the pro cable has the âcapacityâ to be higher resolution in certain âhigh frequenciesâ.
Where they messed up was when they stated that the pro version actually has âwarmer vocalsâ than the non-pro version.
Iâm trying really hard not to swear constantly in my reply. Iâm really upset because they are completely just lying to people now in an attempt to sell more products.
OMG, I just wrote almost exactly that above! lol
I mean the color of the IEM and the modular cable were the exact reasons I got the Pro version⊠the funniest thing is that even Campfire doesnât claim this BS and if you get a high enough resistance cable with the Andromeda it actually does change the FR. Not for the better but it at least changes.
@Resolution
You will âloveâ this. When I was looking for a company that could make a custom Etymotic cable I came across this and just noped on out of there
The BS in what a cable can do is mighty impressive.
Anyone interested in getting a FD3, just remember thisâŠ
No matter how âPROâ your Pro cable is, your IEM will always be entry-level. Stated clearly right from Fiio themselves.
I didnât look at the nonsense in detail but why is my gut telling me that the more expensive the metal/alloy, the more exotic and lengthy the characteristics are probably listed as? What serpent grease.