That’s right. I used to like IFI because it makes the sound warm and makes the bass sound fuller in the IEM I used before, but now I suspect that the sound I want is not coming out of PUNCH because of IFI’s unique sound characteristics.
I’m probably going to upgrade my DAC next time, but I’m worried because there are good songs and vice versa because of IFI’s XBASS that I’m using now.
Thank you for the cable recommendation. I’ll consider purchasing this product as well.
If you want to try another dac I´d suggest to go with a dongle dac like Tanchjim Space…it is very technical sounding and a bit slim in in the midbass and sparkly in the top end which makes it a perfect match for warmer IEMs.
Can be found used pretty cheap and I suspect that you will not even need another cable when u try it 
They should be close to the same, according to their rep the only change is new manufacturer of the DD and rest of the drivers are unchanged. Never heard the original, only the update now.
Among the dongle DAC products I’ve used before, there was TEMPOTC, Museumifi, Shanling, etc. The product I’m using now is not my first time using IFI brand, and I’ve used GO LINK before.
The product I’m currently using is HIP-dac3
I’m hoping for a product that’s rated higher than that.
What do you mean by rated higher?
More power? More expensive?
Because i am pretty sure Tanchjim space meassures much better than Hip DAC and for IEMs you won’t need more power.
What i can also recommend from personal experience is Xduuo XP-2BAL, which is very clean and transparent sounding. Also Topping G5
maybe try zempire ZE51B 
I’m sorry. I’m hoping for a more expensive or higher grade product.
It’s like HIP-dac and Diablo grades in IFI.
I’ve thought about Topping before, but there were many products with too cold sound, and it’s a brand that has difficulty in AS because it’s not officially imported to the country where I live.
So I’ll look for any additional products from the Xduoo brand that you recommended. Thank you for recommending products from different brands.
You recommend replacing the new IEM, right?
It’s a difficult price to buy right now, but thank you for your recommendation.
I’ll consider this product thoroughly as well.
There is absolutely no recovering from that xD
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Hibys R4 has probably got you covered…not the longest battery life but Class A and Hiby’s MSEB makes it a great source both at home and otg 
@hawaiibadboy I know CFA historically is a meme brand, but you oughta try the Clara, it’s kind of a big deal with its Biodynamic DD. It’s a real deal set if you like Classic Rock, Metal, RAP, Trip Hop and other less than ideal quality records. This set absolutely deviates from tuning “META’s” but it’s kind of a breath of fresh air since it shows it’s tuned by a human ear with a clear purpose.
I did hear the Valhalla simultaneously. This set is seriously good - the value proposition here is fantastic considering the state of the Summit-Fi and still remains “achievable” as an Endgame for the crazy but not uber-crazy audiophiles. I would easily take this over many more expensive sets that have come through the stable… and may very well have to pick one up.
The tuning is executed to near perfection for someone wanting a reference set with a lot of treble detail/ air. A lot mentioned it being a spiritual successor to the V16 Divinity, though I would consider Valhalla more forward-leaning as opposed to the warm-tilted V16. The 1-2kHz upper mid is boosted relative to the V16 and I think it’s a bit too forward for my tastes at times (not shouty but can be intense). TBH, I think the sleeper pick for me with Thieaudio is the Prestige LTD, bass was more satisfying than Valhalla but less technical.
Val’s imaging is crisp and super well defined - one of the best I’ve ever heard for its surgical precision. The only issue is the imaging depth is a bit flat due to it not having a DD or fleshed out midbass to bring in the center focus. It’s very panned left-to-right.
It is neutral, engaging, both dynamic and analytical but has a satisfying bass for BA, fast bass with strong kick. It sounds like a better U18T if I had to compare.
Compared to the Clara, I was really on the fence as to which I would take home. Wow factor and brain said Valhalla due to the superior techs and tuning “balance”, but my heart and emotional strings were being pulled a bit more with Clara for its impressive bass realism and more euphonic tone. Ended up going for the unique and colorful Clara, because it distinguishes itself in the market all while giving enough technical ability to satisfy my needs.
Clara sounds like live music, for lack of better word. It says “F–K” the META and does its own thing, and it shows that a human’s ears are behind its creation - something a lot of IEM’s seem to lack these days as they constantly seem to be tuned to a Target.
Graph below assuming 80dB listening volume:
Nothing will happen.
If you want to change the sound like you do, you need to use PEQ.
Hi @Tp111 , welcome to the forum.
Changing the cable will not make the bass harder or faster nor give more emphasis to the midrange.
Do I understand correctly that you’re using Punch with the iFi Hip Dac 3, with XBass activated? Do you find Punch does not have enough bass without it?
Are you also using the IEMatch function, or no?
First, I’d say turn off IEMatch if you’re using it. It increases the output impedence (noted here and here)which is likely to add midbass bleed, based on measurements I’ve seen of people using it with impedance adaptors. You would probably get the best results from a low output impedance source (Mojo 2 would be good if you want to upgrade).
Also, XBass adds an insane +12db low shelf (at about 120Hz, 0.7 Q) to an already really bassy IEM. You find the Punch not bassy enough without XBass? This is roughly the difference:
As @Rikudou_Goku said, if you want to try making the bass faster and adding more emphasis to the midrange, you can experiment with EQ. For example, make the bass tuck earlier, and up the midrange a bit. There is good guides online for how producers EQ bass guitar and kick drums for more attack that you can use for inspiration.
I like Punch as it is 
Starting to wonder if the industry is present as these guys is fighting for their lives for Companys right to buy from the ones who doesnt innovate and undermine the ones who does means to do so.
It absolutely baffles my mind how people can defend being NOT transparent.
Imagine buying a PC and they dont specify what parts they use and just tell you, “trust us, this is good! Look, our benchmarks are competitive! No need for you to know whats inside”.
Edit:
Actually there IS one hobby/area where they DO actually do it like my example above…
Ereaders.
Canadian company.
It’s wild to see people discount the value of QA/QC in product manufacture and development.
And not use any objective data.
It saves them money to use non (Knowles Sonion)
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If they had strted to build their alternative option 5 years ago instead on “Custom” and not used bullshit lingo in ads and shared white papers and metrics and standards we would all be familiar with them and their history and the public can /could decide.
Excusing companies lack of transparency to consumer is crazy.
If you don’t think so…I’m not really talking to you.
The companies that show ransparency deserve the props and he ones who sat on hands for the last 5 years instead of establishing (new brand X) deserve to get dinged.
They did that for PROFIT
Guy talking about a transparency topic hurting his brain and
Quality of transducer is… the… BIGGEST point related to sound QUALITY
Tuning… implementation… etc and whether you like that? Different topic
Everything else is the customer doesn’t understand???..this is all annoying and that’s why companies are moving away from disclosure and transparency…because consumers are too dumb to understand anyway? Lets abandon disclosure and transparency because the community is smooth brained.
