I know @ToneDeafMonk liked the Artti R2 and didn’t like the ZiiGaat Cinno. I had exactly the opposite take on them, and I couldn’t get bass out of the R2 without holding them hard into my ears. After giving up on the R2, I tried the Cinno, and it sounded like a bass cannon. That was two days ago.
I didn’t think TDM was that wrong about them, and his audio opinions are usually pretty close to mine, but these two sets got me thinking. Tonight I got got the R2 back out, and it was the nozzle angle. I had to pull the top out while rotating the stem into a steeper angle, and then the bass finally presented correctly. This hobby is fricking weird.
The nozzle on the R2 is the opposite of the Kailua nozzle, which was almost too shallow for me. The R2 is also straight out with not much angle.
Oddly enough after the R2 session, I went back to the Cinno and was really enjoying them. They were far more bassy, even if it is only the impact of the recessed treble.
I was happy to figure out part of this mystery, and now can start looking forward to the bassier sets I have coming over the next week or so ( Hades and DosCinco ). Sadly the Form 1.1 got pushed back again, so who knows when I will get that.
Nozzle angle and how deep it goes or doesn’t makes so much of a difference.
If you ever get to try a plunge Audio universal its you will instantly get it.
You are correct as well , in the Plungies it mostly because the bass ba are firing into a chamber NO SOUND TUBES and with time alignment and ear gain works differently.
Thats my point if you understand what Plunge Audio did and why the shell has to be made using a nylon powderbed printer to get the shape so the nozzles angles back into your ear canal and how custom form fitted it makes sense once you try one. Quite uniquely different than anything else currently on the market.
I see no reason why a resin printer can’t do this. There’s nothing prohibitive about the geometry. I’ve used both resin and powderbed printers. I’m sure he has a good reason for using a powderbed printer, but it don’t see why it would be the shape.
Totally agree with the you @GooberBM , much more helpful do do the comparison with them aligned at the ear gain.
Great review! Really curious to try these out. Wonder how they compare to OH700VB too. Still waiting on my TSMR-X to arrive though, so won’t be shopping for IEMs for at least a few months.