Nice, hope you enjoy it 
I think my point is it isn’t necessarily a bump in frequency response, any DAC with decent linearity will measure flat on a frequency sweep.
There is a texture to sound that goes beyond just frequency sweeps, I think much of it has to do with transient response.
Yes of course
I actually laughed out loud. My wife thinks I’m losing it.
The question is could you have expressed it in a more effective and accessible way? Probably not!
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Also over the Soekris 1451?
And what is it with warming up, do all R2R dacs need to be warm in several hrs to sound their best?
I would say over the soekris, but they are going for a different sound. The soekris is going for a more neutral sound where the ares II is going for a bit more enjoyable tuning. Also I think now the more reasonable price would be the schiit bifrost 2 multibit as I think that has close sound quality (although I like the tuning on the ares ii a bit more) but is actually available lol
Regarding warm up, I don’t know the science behind it but my r2r does legit take like 30 or more minutes before it sounds it’s best. It just sounds better after warming up
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That didn’t make it any easier 
I did look at the Gungnir Multibit, but not the bifrost; and as Soekris is also Danish I was aiming at that over the adi 2.
Lol, well I mean what are you looking to get out of the dac? What type of sound are you after? I would prefer the soekris to the adi 2 imo
I was intrigued by the R2R discussion and how clean they are and if they were in the same price range as the adi 2, then why not.
But the Drop Airist R2R is not available and the Denafrips Ares II is hard to get, so the Soekris kind of made it easier. I want to hook it up to a rnhp.
I’m seriously considering the Soekris DAC myself. There certainly arent a lot of options for R2R dacs at > $500.
Also had someone recommend the Metrum Amethyst, but I know nothing about the Metrum product line.
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Yeah I would go with the soekris then, it’s very solid and sounds great imo
Then I will look more into it 
That’s also pretty good too, but it is more specialty product, it’s more analytical leaning for an r2r, pretty nice but just know the sound signature.
Ok. Interesting. I just was looking at some metrum models and specs.
So how would the cheaper Metrum Flint compare to the Soekris 1321?
I have not heard the flint unfortunately, but the 1321 is fairly neutral and actually a more relaxed sounding dac, more relaxed in it’s presentation and isn’t really harsh whatsoever. If I go off of the amethyst the amethyst is a decent bit more detail forward (slightly more detailed) and can have some edge at times. The 1321 is more just neutral and relaxed in those regards not really going detail forward but not really lacking detail
Damn, your description doesn’t help me narrow it down…it only makes me want to buy both, lmao.
Well I don’t know if the flint is similar to the other metrum lol. Well both are great lol so it comes down to what you can actually get and what sound you prefer lol
Hmmmm, I may still be leaning towards the Soekris 1321
For me what I find myself enjoying I would be looking for either a 1321 or a used bifrost 2 in this price range (I would personally go for the bifrost 2 knowing what I like)
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Well since its performance at reconstructing signal amplitudes is based on using precise resistance values all throughout the ladder, it makes sense that even a small change in resistance due to temperature would directly affect performance. And in that case they would have tuned it to work best in warm state (which is maintained longer) rather than cold.
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