I emailed them and havenāt gotten a reply about review unit.
I got in on the first wave on Indiegogo for 319$. Iām pretty much out of the headphone game, have my endgame desktop setup, but I have been craving something wireless and portable that actually sounds good. Theyāre offering refunds if you donāt like them so I figure what the hell, theyāre worth a shot.
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Well, when you get them if you feel like filling us in, it would be appreciated lol, hopefully you enjoy them 
I personally think heās overreactingā¦ review embargos are not a big deal. It does not necessarily mean the people posting their reviews are āshillingā or being dishonest. Iāve already mentioned that Iām hesitant to buy into the hype of the Panda, but this is a step too far IMO.
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Weāll know one way or another.
If the final product is different to review units sent out, itās shill valley all the way.
Would like to think Drop wonāt stoop that low though.
Yeah. I would think it would be in their best interest to live up to the hype as much as possibleā¦ and for the people giving it positive reviews as wellā¦ or their reputations will sink. Zeos has always been a mixed bag, IMO. I thought the shp 9500s were a GREAT find for the priceā¦ but the recently raved Koss SP330 were not very good IMO. I bought them and have tried them at least 3 or 4 different times on separate occasions and they sound pretty āblehā every time. KSC75s are much better. Zeos just jumps the gun on things sometimes and gets stupid passionate about stuff without REALLY thinking it throughā¦ but his work is still very much appreciated by me.
I think BGGARās video is a good reminder at least to be mindful and that itās all marketing and itās much smarter to wait and see, though.
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Yeah I enjoy Z for the entertainment value. He did point me in the direction of the 1990s which I never would have looked into, but I tend to over analyse a product now before I buy these days. Very sceptical after the Phantom hype, granted I now like it after substantial mods but stillā¦
I feel the same about the Panda - Iāll rather pay the extra 100 odd dollars for peace of mind when it finally gets released.
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I believe every influencer who made a review about them get 10% of the sales made when their link is used soā¦ They have a decent amount of incentive
How on earth did they all release their reviews on the same day???..come on if you take on a set to review you do it in a way you see fit which my take a week or two depending on the reviewers available time for that particular item, most reviewers have multi units being reviewed at a time.
It does seem Drop orchestrated it so all the reviews came out a once?..ergo had made a previous arrangements with the reviews before they sent out the herd of Pandas?
They had them before it was officially released, and given time before. Then the embargo was released, very common
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Drop is not the first to do that though
Itās a review embargo. It happens a lot with movies and video games. Critics receive the product, early, well in advanced and they all have time to review the product early. In exchange, you have to agree not to release those impressions until a certain date. Itās not so much that they ācoordinatedā, but rather once the embargo lifts, most reviewers will already have their review done and will release it at day.
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Not really down with corporate homogenised reviews especially when itās so orchestrated but thatās just me I guess.
Sure, if that is true, then I think that is definitely worth taking into account. Iām not quite sure if that number is accurate, though, usually itās a lot lower. Amazon affiliate links, for example, donāt pay anywhere near 10%, that would be insanely high. The math for how it works is generally pretty wonky and the amount you make is generally pretty lowā¦ Like you have to drive around $100k worth of sales to make about $200ā¦ and the way they determined how much sales you drove is pretty wonky.
Zeos is going to be A LOT more dependent on something like patron and youtube advertising revenueā¦ which is his most stable form of income, and to maintain that, he needs to at least maintain a certain level of ātrustā with his community.
I personally give people the benefit of the doubt until they give me a good reason not to. I think Zeos is being honest with his review, but I just donāt really believe I would be as enthusiastic as him about the headphones or necessarily agree with him on how they sound.
The reviews have honestly been pretty mixed. Crinacle, for example, said the bass was a bit bloated and the drop in the upper mids made them sound a bit muffled. And the imaging was pretty bad.
I think when they finally do release, they will probably be about what is reasonable to expect. Probably very good for a closed-back wireless pair of headphones, but itās not going to compete with other well regarded standard/wired options.
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DMS said it was like, HD6XX levels of detail, but wireless. Definitely enough for when youāre in the bus lol.
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I mean thatās also going to end up being a similar price tbh, a 6xx and a k5 pro is cheaper still if you go off of the 400 price. The thing is too that you can scale with the 6xx, and make it preform much higher depending on your amp.
Weāll see. Lol
Itās funny, because it got me thinking how really personal audio REALLY is.
Like generally, with most headphones, the community tends to fall in line with the same 1 or 2 general impressionsā¦ but I think that really comes from beingā biasedā by what people have said already. This is the first time Iāve seen, probably ever, where a bunch of people HAVE to review a headphone completely cold without having been influenced by thatā¦ and it shows a pretty wide variety of impressions. There are some commonalities, but the general reception is very mixed.
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I mean, Crinacle is nitpicking because apparently he heard all the IEMs in the world including 10 000$ ones or something and probably a ton of headphones too lol.
Whatās endgame for some can be shit for him 
We wonāt actually know unless he gives more information on his logic, but maybe heās just being objective or critical.
I say this because I can easily see this product being overly hyped, more than what itās worth. It is also combining multiple hyped products (wireless, THX, and ANC). I donāt think itāll live up to the value that we can find out of 6xx, 58x, Elex, or other products that Drop has done a good job at giving bang for the buck.
Itās what I was offered by them in the past I have proof if needed. Itās what they were ready to offer me a fairly Insignificant individual so wonder how much they were ready offer otherās