I missed this comment earlier. Thanks for the input. Seems like everyday solidifies more that I should pass on them. I like details but, I also never felt any of my sets to be disappointing. Which for the Oracle2 if more detail means sharp vocals and fatiguing at higher volumes itās now in the territory of one of my instant no goes. Passing on it is a good thing because Iām eagerly awaiting HBB to get the XENNS Top and graph it. Could use the extra funds if it looks in line to my preferences.
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Yup similar conclusion here. Ya it has more treble detail but is it worth the scalability and everything else? No for me at least. And yea the TOP looks interesting for sure. Shell looks beaut 
Yeah, but the pre-order you kept for the Meteors ought to cushion the blow, right? Gotta love that silver liningā¦
Cymbals, guitars ā¦ but we didnāt understand does it sound fun or is it another BA set? By the way - Iām not sure that the guitars sound delicious, things are more complicated there. 
Impressions from Facebook Chifi Audio Group, Sa6 Ultra vs Mest Mk2!
"I donāt really have a review platform besides this and Amazon lol. Also Iāve never heard the U12T, but would love to if I ever get the chanceā¦Hereās my comparison with the Mest MK2
The Mestās bass has better extension and rumble but is also a bit slower. The Dunu has good rumble but is more of a punchy bass. Mest is like a ported 15ā subwoofer, while the Dunu is like a sealed 12ā.
Midrange of the 2 sets are pretty comparable, with the Mest having a bit more weight behind notes and the Dunu having a little more energy in the presence region. I donāt like breezing over this section, but honestly both sets are excellent.
Treble on both are outstanding. The Mest manages to produce a little more detail, but it feels segregated from the rest of the music. Like having tiny cymbals behind your eye balls 
. Itās a very unique experience. Iāve heard other EST sets, and the treble usually sounds a bit weightless. The Mest doesnāt have this issue, and if I were to guess itās where the BC driver is really assisting. Itās a very unique experience but not the most true to life. The Dunu on the other hand is very coherent and accompanies the rest of the frequencies to make one common sound. it has great extension, providing excellent micro details and air. ļæ¼
Soundstage and imaging of both are very good, I think the largest difference is the Mest has a darker background (exaggerated space between instruments). This gives the impression of more pin point like imaging.
Build and fit of both are very good, but I find the Dunu more comfortable for long-term listening. Iāve never had a custom set, but the Dunu is the most comfortable IEM Iāve ever worn.
In summary Iād consider the Mest MK2 an amazing earphone and an audio enthusiastās set. The Dunu on the other hand is closer to true audiophile gear. If they decided to mass produce the Ultra, I think it would be a major market disrupter. Similar to the likes of the Timeless, Thieaudio Monarch/Clarvoyance siblings, and the Moondrop Blessing 2.
Both sets are well balanced with a focus on mids, but the Mest does have a stronger emphasis on bass. Thatās personably the biggest difference between the 2 in terms of FR"
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āMest MK2 has slightly (and I mean slightly) more detail retrieval in the upper register. But also the overall timbre is a mix mash vs this one which is coherent and smooth. For this to be so comparable to something that costs 3X the amount is a huge win. Iād be interested in hearing someone A/B it with a U12T (which is probably a more apples to apples match)ā
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Looking at my past sets the only two other all BA sets Iāve owned are the U12T and the Hekili. It wouldnāt be fair to say it just sounds like another all BA set. Havenāt heard either in 6-8 months. What I can say is Iām enjoying the entirety of my library with it. Does that make it fun? Probably not in the traditional sense. It doesnāt have the slam/punch and EST energy of the Mahina or the intimacy and warmth of my UP that make those fun for me. Itās got something there for sure thatāll make me gravitate to it just need more time to lock in what it is.
I think youāre mistaken about Hekili, if its product page on Linsoul is to be trusted:
Maybe you meant Lokahi?
I owned the Lokahi, couldnāt deal with the BA timbre that set had.
Yeap my mistake. Thanks for the catch. That means the U12T is the only all BA set Iāve owned and heard.
Got another question for ya - In terms of overall signature, presentation and delivery, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being sterile-analytical and 10 being balls-to-the-walls-fun:
Where does the Ultra land?
And where does your other sets land?
Also, Is the stage of the Ultra of the" enveloping kind" or more of the ādistant cylindrical onlookerā kind? (If that makes sense)
Balls to the wall fun go to Mahina, and Volt if your talking loud volume approved. Ultra sits closer to UP at loud volume. Itās starting to not seem fair, as of this morning, to put the Ultra up against what I consider a fun set. Iāve got about 8 hours on it as of now. It sits more in the range of the UP. Itās a super smooth mellow warm approach. Definietely not analytical or sterile. Just takes another approach from the Up and opens the sound stage, improves imaging and brings in more details. Also, plays more balanced with male and female vocals. Itās not enveloping like the EJ07 or super intimate like UP. God the EJ07 literally makes me feel like Iām in the middle of a three dimensional space. Itās insane what it does on PsyTrance. Ultra is wide with good forward vocals. Depth seems to be slightly less than width. As if Iām sitting in the perfect seat of a concert where Iām far enough back to give good seperation from the members of the band. Yet they donāt seem all crammed in straight line.
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So youāre just gonna disregard my numbers system xD
Just kidding, thanks for the breakdown. Iāll experience it for myself soon enough, just very excited.
So it sounds like it would benefit from an analytical/detail oriented source because itās inherently smooth sounding and it wonāt become ātoo muchā?
Okay if you must. Mahina and Volt would get a 10. Still doesnāt seem fair but, Iāll give the Ultra a 6. I canāt compare sources much to help. All I have is the Q5K and Blu. Donāt need another rabbit hole to jump in so, these will be all I ever have until they break.
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To be fair, Q5K is a neutral source and every IFI Iāve ever heard is warm by nature. So you do have references on both ends of the spectrum
Interesting, I would definitely urge you to rethink your position if sound quality is of paramount importance 
You can reach quite high with some Mid-fi Daps these days. I have found that multi-chip dacs have an advantage in staging over single chip units. (Anecdotal but dead-accurate so far)
Anyway, Iām waiting on my TempoTec V6 DAP to pair with the Sa6 Ultra. The V6 is said to have a bit more energy in the mid-bass area so that sounds like it would complement the Sa6 Ultra, as well as having a smooth rather than sharp signature. Weāll see (hear)!
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Always a good time with these bad boys in my ears! These and the Talos are primo IMHO.
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Talos are that good?
Got some A/Bing in. Remember the Moonlight is no longer with me. This is the Mahina EQd with PEQ via squigs. For a few days I had both in hand and honestly EQd I could not tell a difference. Iāll just refer to the Mahina as Moonlight here.
My biggest takes are vocals seem more forward on the Moonlight and Ultra is more airy. I also get a sense the band is a bit more three dimesional. Donāt want to call the Ultra linear in soundstage but, to me it seems more natural to a band on stage as if I watched from the audience. Moonlight seems to have the band surround me more.
Treble is interesting. Getting a sense of cymbals and such being more noticable on Moonlight but, I think the SA6 tuning makes them more cohesive with the band. Same goes with guitars however, it may be easy for someone to say the Ultra lacks energy in them. I prefer the Ultra to both these points. Maybe itās my dark side coming fhrough. Neither would satisfy a treble head but, I think theyād be more inclined to dismiss the Ultra and lean towards Moonlight.
Despite the charts being fairly close on bass the Moonlight seems to have way more presence especially in midbass punch. Charts arenāt telling the full story here. The Ultra may be the winner though for me ironically. It has a quicker and possibly tighter response. Not sure if my terms are correct but itās almost as if the bass is bloated occasionally or possibly lingering to long on Moonlight. Maybe a result of the type of material the DD uses as a donāt get this sense my UP with the berryllium DD.
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Haha I know. I have yours now. Thanks for the comparison. Sounds like the moonlight is the right choice for me compared to the ultra so no sad I missed it. I get your point with the bass on the Moonlight. The biodynamic definitely sounds less controlled and a bit loose compared to my IE600
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