šŸ”· Focal Elegia

Hahaha all these comments about the cable being shit, but it’s true. I used the stock cable for quite some time, but then it stopped working with the left ear cup after it got bent a few too many times.

Bought a hart cable for the elegia (and my nighthawks while I was at it) and never looked back. Don’t know why the stock cable is so bad, but it really is awful. Recently bought an OG Clear from the sale going on and I might go ahead and buy a new hart cable ahead of time, because I don’t think I want to deal with the stock cable again…

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The same happened to me, mine stopped working after what, 2 months of use? And Focal never covered in the warranty. Makes me think they don’t care if you’ve spent ā€œonly $400ā€ on a Headphone.

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Lol, I just saw the Z review of these. I’ve got a pair with a nice-ish custom cable I bought on Etsy if anybody is looking for a pair used. I haven’t listed them for sale anywhere but hit me up if you’re curious!

It’s finally time to actually review the Elegia.

I’ll start with the build and comfort. Build wise these are kind of like a mix of a Sennheiser and a Beyer that costs nearly $1000. The plastic used for the cups is rather nice and the headband feels solid (though the middle part is plastic and there have been reports of it breaking). The yokes are metal and feel great. No sharp edges or anything. My favorite thing is the Focal logo on the back of the cup. It is a piece of machined aluminum and the logo itself is actually a grill to port the back of the driver. My only real complaints about the build would be the previously mentioned headband breakages and the spring-loaded cups. I feel it would be nicer if the middle chunk of the headband were spring steel and the cups were dampened instead of spring loaded, but these are relatively small problems (unless the headband breaks on you of course).

Comfort wise, these are very good. The pads use the same wonderful suede on the inside and an alcantara like material for the face and outside. The foam is kind of too soft, but it is still well padded and does not overly compress. The headband is well padded, and I don’t seem to get the hot spot some people get with Focal headphones. They are not a boat anchor by any means but are deceivingly heavy at ~410g. For reference, the Lawton modded X00s are ~525g and the Hemps with Shipibo slim parts are ~210g. The weight is not too bad, but I was kind of surprised since they don’t feel that heavy on the head. This is due to the high clamp force and fairly low-profile cups and headband, so the weight doesn’t move around any on your head. The cups don’t build up too much heat either which is good for a closed back. My only comfort complaint would be the clamp is pretty tough right out of the box, but it does loosen up some over time and helps get a good seal with the pads (very important for sound).

Now on to the sound. These are probably the most neutral headphones I’ve personally heard. Being so neutral, there is no bass bleed, sibilance, shouty-ness, etc., but they can also sound a little boring or too polite at times. Of course, this also means they are rather relaxed, and I can listen for a long time with little issue other than 3k, but that is a very specific sensitivity of mine, so most people won’t have any issue. They are also very revealing headphones. They do a great job at sounding exactly like the track sounds, good or bad. Though one issue I had with this was sometimes well recorded tracks sounded like recordings. I only had this issue with live recorded music like Amber Rubarth Sessions from the 17th Ward, but It was strange that such a well recorded album sounded off like it did at times. If I had to guess I would say it’s because that album is literally just a bi-neural microphone in a room with the musicians, so these headphones make it sound like just that. There is no production to pretty up the recording, I guess. Things like the dynamics and transients are very good. I quite liked the vocal presentation since it is not too intimate (vocals feel like they are in front of you) but the vocals are still forward and clear. Sadly, there is one big point that genuinely disappointed me, the soundstage and kind of the imaging. The sound stage is decently wide and fairly accurate in how it recreates a space, but it sorely lacks in depth when compared to my Lawton modded X00s and Hemps. With those two headphones sounds sort of float off into a black void around you while with the Elegia there seems to be a fairly well-defined outer edge to the stage where sounds just kind of stop moving. The stage tends to sound wider that the X00s and Hemps but cannot sound as close or far when those occasional sounds call for it. Then the imaging seems a little off. I think it might be a bit of a dead zone just to either side of the center image but I’m not sure.

The first comparison is going to be with the Hemps. Tuning wise the Elegia has more sub-bass and bass, less upper-bass and lower mids, similar mids/upper-mids (without the signature Grado 2k peak obviously), and similar treble quantity but with different tuning (the Hemps have more dips and peaks in the treble but are not really any brighter or darker overall). This means the Elegia has better bass extension and more ā€œaccurateā€ sounding treble than the Hemps. The Elegia are also more detailed and have more ā€œfinesseā€ to its sound. That finesse can sound a bit boring though. The sound is relaxed which is good for long listening sessions or harsher music, but it also means more exciting music doesn’t sound as good as it does on the Hemps. Like I stated previously, the dynamics and transients of the Elegia are great, but they don’t really hit quite as hard as the Hemps (though the Hemps are an exceptionally impactful headphone, so this comparison is just a touch unfair). Lastly, the Elegia are just cold sounding compared to the Hemps. The Hemps are a very warm sounding headphone, so that exacerbates this, but the Elegia just sound very cold and clinical in comparison. This makes music like Black Sabbath and RATM sound SO MUCH BETTER on the Hemps. That kind of music really need an extra emphasis on the bass guitar and the lower end of the lead guitar to sound it’s best and the Elegia is just lacking in those areas. I should specify that if I listen to just the Elegia and don’t compare it directly to the Hemps that this kind of music still sound great through them, it’s just the Hemps sound SO GODDAMN GOOD with this music. Overall, I would say I like the Hemps better for enjoyment but the Elegia is, in most regards, a more technically capable headphone.

Next up are my Lawton modded X00s (Type 4 wood with ZMF Ori hybrid pads and attenuation rings). Tuning wise these two are almost polar opposites. The Elegia have less sub-bass and bass, less upper-bass/lower-mids, more upper mids, and less treble. Basically the Elegia is neutral and the X00s are V-shaped. Because of this huge disparity in sound signature I’m not going to spend to much time on it. Instead, I’d rather focus on how the ~$1000msrp headphone competes with the ~$1000 total cost modded headphone in terms of technical performance. lets start with the good. The Elegia has less harsh and sometimes more detailed treble than the X00s. This isn’t to say the X00s are harsh and undetailed, but that the Elegia has very good treble. The difference in detail is kind of slight and not always really noticeable, but it is there. Next, the Elegia’s mids are sometimes clearer than the X00s. This might be mostly due to the more forward upper-mids of the Elegia, but I also think the Elegia just slightly edges out the X00s in terms of detail and texture in the upper-mids. The Elegia have very good bass extension. Obviously not as good as the X00s in terms of raw quantity, but relative to the rest of its tuning, the Elegia dig pretty deep. Now for the less than good. Ignoring bass quantity, the Elegia have similar (but slightly lesser) texture and detail in the bass as the X00s and are not as good in terms of sub-bass tunefulness (how distinguishable different bass frequencies are from each other) especially in the midst of an actual song. I already mentioned the more laid-back sound and kind of disappointing soundstage and imaging. So overall I would say the Elegia are about equal with the X00s in terms of technicalities, but I still like the X00s more.

That is pretty much the tl;dr of this review, ā€œgreat technicalities but I still prefer the X00s and Hempsā€. I think this comes down to the cold upper-bass/lower-mids and the more relaxed overall presentation. I really like a warm and exciting sound, and these don’t really do that. With that being said, I still really like these and intend to keep them for the time being. They are the best closed back I’ve heard (the X00s are thoroughly semi-open imo) and while I prefer the other two headphones I’ve mentioned, these still sound great once I’ve gotten used to the lack of warmth, I’m otherwise accustomed to.

I would like to make music recommendations, but either the X00s or hemps will almost always sound better to me on most songs. These don’t really excel at any specific genre as much as a mood. These are for relaxed listening when you want to shut out the outside world.

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Nice review! I mostly agree with you, although I would have a hard time saying the Elegia is ā€œinoffensiveā€. I feel like they are more this happened because of the headphones you compared it to. Then again, maybe this is just my perspective.

As for the ā€œmusic recommendationā€, I would like to know what kind of styles you hear. I particularly like some electronica in the Elegia because I like the dynamics and how well I feel like they resolve, even when a million things are happening.

You are probably right about the comparisons coloring my view of these. The Hemps and X00s are both very specialist tunings.

I also like electronic music with them, but the X00s do that better. They do classic rock well, but the Hemps do that better. That was my point in my review. The Elegia don’t particularly excel in any specific genre but they also rarely sound anything less than good. They are a great general purpose headphone.

If I had to pick what they do best, I think I would say really busy metal were the resolving capabilities can help and classical music were the other two can sound too thick or bassy. Some specific examples are the modern Doom soundtracks, jinjer, and the Hollow Knight ost.

Like I said, these are a jack of all trades, but a master of few.

Edit: dire straits sound pretty damn good right now. I wonder if the Hemps would sound better or not?

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Selling mine at lightly used used but with nice upgrade cable. I find them as some have said mid focused, I tend to be slightly more of a bass head the more and more I get into this hobby. So these definitely don’t satisfy that desire with me, not when I could thrown on lcd3’s or listen to a 2.1 system.

Curious to see if you manage to get your asking price since the $400 runs. Also you might want to move this to the Buy/Sell and Looking for Thread under Off-topic…

I picked these up for a steal at $600 only about 2 months ago? but bought that cable for around $120. Plus all the shipping, it’s just a starting price. I honestly just want to get something for it, we shall see if anyone bites. I see a bunch on eBay but a lot overseas.

definitely wouldn’t call that a ā€œstealā€ at that price… quick google search and find several results within the $400 price bracket and it’s been that way for some time now with most commonly known I believe was Adorama

After getting some focal clear MG, I am looking for an entry level Focal as a gift for my girlfriend. Where do you all find these 400$ Focal? I can’t find any in EU… Could you provide a link? (open back prefered but closed back for 400 is a steal) Might even be cheaper to import them for that price!

Even on Ebay they are significantly more expensive.

Adorama.com did a run at $400 a few weeks ago. They’re currently out of stock on them and the price is listed at $900 again. Keep an eye on the deals thread, it’ll get posted again if it comes up.

Thnx! will try to keep an eye on them. Most are US based but for those prices, import might still be a great deal.

I have one in like new condition would be open to parting with. It comes paired to a ifi hipdac for for 550 euros.

Hi, sorry I am not looking for a cheap amp at this moment, I actually have plenty of entry level amps :stuck_out_tongue:

Looking to buy a present for my GF once she heard my new clear MG, but 550 is really too much sorry.

I might consider selling mine in a couple of weeks. Trying out a new headphone in the meantime. If you’re not in a hurry, feel free to send me a message if you haven’t found anything by then.

Not in a hurry at all, I will shoot you a message. Let me know when you want to sell them :slight_smile:

Found the ElegĆ­as for 499 Euros at Fnac, french site, it took less than a week to get them to Sweden. Really pleased with them. It’s a bargain.
Had listened to the Celeste but found more intimate than the ElegĆ­as.
You are going to have a very happy girlfriend.

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Damn, still a bit more than I was planning to spend, but a great deal for sure. Was hoping to get some come into the 2nd hand market for 300 or so… :grimacing: Not sure if that is realistic though, and maybe I should just buy these… :hugs:

p.s. how do you find these kind of deals in the first place? Been searching quite a bit past days but hadn’t seen these…

p.s.2. Did you question them about warrenty @Perico might have to bite the bullet lol

Just searching, got lucky I guess.
My french isn’t that good, but the warranty for a new product should be at least 1 year being in the EU. They are solid built so if you just take care nothing should happen. They are still at fnac.com at 499. Fnac is a major chain in France by the way.
Looked on eBay but even used are more expensive. I saved basically 50% of the price in Sweden. Even if you getting cheaper outside the EU VAT comes into play. With Brexit a lot of audio stuff got more expensive and harder to find.

Does anyone have had any experience with Shipibo Audio in Polen. They make cables and they have an ear pad for Grados that I might fancy. Hard to find cables in the EU and buying in the Us is a hassle.

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