I definitely agree on that statement.
It not the price that dictate the endgame but rather what frequency response it pushes.
I love my hd600 but they lack a little treble definition.
I love my sundara treble ā¦perfect however they lack mid-range fullness.
Vocals lack some body in the male region .
I like the mid-range emphasis of the hd600.
Some find the hd600 mid-range fatiguing ā¦
That s not my case.
Ideally a in-between ( hd600 +sundara) would be perfect.
Great response although I have never understood that āAll Focal headphones have a metallic soundā thing. I have been loving my Elexās for a year and a half and have never heard it. Are you a really loud listener?
I canāt say that all Focals have it, I can hear it on my Elegia. I listen between 75db and 77db usually. Itās a subtle thing, while listening to an album it might come through a few times.
I would describe it as a slight echo or emphasis on a certain frequency. It adds a bit more to certain guitars and vocals.
Itās part of the signature that I like rather than sounding similar to other headphones.
I have never heard anything like that in my Elexās or my Elegiaās but, as I said, I top out at about 72Dbās.
I love the Focals hard and hope to move up to the Clears and a better closed back in the Focal line.
I do agree with what you said regarding āend gameā. Truly, endgame is whatever you say it is. If you love your current set-up and have no urge to upgrade, then that is end game for you.
I had an Elegia at one point and absolutely heard the āmetallicā sound - itās difficult to describe it without hearing it. But that isnāt on the Clear Mg nor on the Celestee, FWIW.
I still think the Elegia are the best closed-back headphones you can get under $400 (Adorama deal).
The Clears are something that there was a lot of hype over when it came out but after that initial period faded there is still interest in them. Thatās how I judge the communities reaction to them
Iāve seen the OG Clear with some good deals recently as sites try to move the old stock.
According to Resolve, a significant amount (if weāre talking about sound). And considering the difference from my stock pads and the Dekoni Sheepskin, I agree with him. In terms of comfort also a improvement, but the Elegias were comfortable for me from the get go, so there is that.
As for burn-in⦠Well, Iām firm in the āthis is not a thingā territory but I will say some folks had a different experience. Some especially said about ābrain burn-inā, since they were not used to sound signature like the Elegia.
I personally knew they werenāt going anywhere after a few hours of listen so YMMV.
Makes sense. What a treat the Elegia is turning out to be.
Have you considered software based EQ? I have hears that Focals in general take to equalization very well. While I have very little basis for comparison, I can definitely say I am enjoying the results of some A/B testing between some EQ presets found on AutoEQ. With the preset that sounds best to me, its almost like a wet blanket was between my head and the sound, and applying the eq is like taking the blanket off. A wee bit more bass, but upper mids really start to shine, and I can hear the recording space more clearly (including all sorts of tiny sounds I didnāt even realize were there, like paper shuffles, clothes rustling, etc.)
The Elegia takes very well to EQ, my preset is similar to the one by Resolve with a touch more bass. It basically creates a small bass shelf and adds a little to the upper treble. I definitely recommend if you can.
As for the pads, I think the sheepskin does a fantastic job, itās definitely worth it IMO. Canāt say about the other dekoni stuff, but I will leave the link to Resolve evaluation of the Focal Clear pad rolling. At around 12:00 he talks about the Elegia, but donāt get too much in depth.
The elegia are on sale at the moment and Iām looking for a semi portable closed back headphone that does it all. I have noise cancelling cans for things of that nature.
At the 500 dollar price point are there any other closed back headphones that can compete on pure sound quality. Iād like to be able to run them of a quidelex 5k or just a mbp16.
=The elegia definitely falls into the semi portable category and better they are so efficient that they will sound really good out of a phone jack.
The passive isolation is quite good.
=The comfort is particular due to the spring loaded technology which Focal uses on their premium headphones.
The pads are comfy ,
=The clamp ,on the other hand,is like that guy at the restaurant ,he didnāt get his well-done steak and instead got a" medium-rare"
They clam hard.
The shape of your head will dictate if you will be able to bare the elegia for more than several minutes.
=If you lean toward trully natural ( like a hd600)stay away from the elegia unless you are willing to eq them.
=The elegia has a tilt in tonality( on stock eq sound) that can make some track sound the best they will ever be and some others⦠well it s gonna be a massacre.
Original soundtrack such as:
" lady maria of the astral tower "
itās okay but it definitely sounds better on the hd600 and sundara.
(On stock eq)
If you have to get the elegia ,i would recommend you to take a companion to go alongside the elegia .
I can easily recommend you to go with the orphan of koss ⦠hermmm*
the Koss kph30i (30$)
with an eq ( -4db at 63) and (-2 db at 125)
Or a hd600 ( 300$ average)
Both are open tho.
If you are still willing to suffer for a great sound the etymotic er2se is a good option they can even block up 30db and more⦠but the fit .
Welcome to HFGF! The elegiac are very easy to drive, so they could be used on the go. I donāt think of them really as all around because some recordings may not sound great on them. Also I would find them really big for walking around, but thatās personal. Comfort may vary as comment by @Cardo_Jeremy. Also agree with his assessment on sound, at least in general.
Also, how are you with your noise cancelling headphones? Which ones have you owned/heard? Usually they have a tendency for warm V shaped, with a lot of bass. The Elegia is very far from this sound signature, so if you like it they are not your cup of tea.
Personally, for portable, I think Koss stuff and IEMs are better but thatās my opinion. I would also advise against going to much upper in price if you donāt know what to like in headphones. Starting at $200 and below, experimenting with various flavors to find what you want from your headphones is usually the way to go in this Hobby, at least IMO.
Thanks to both of you. I will look at other options!
Hmm, I have the px7s, airpod maxs, xm4. The music I listen to is a very wide mix. I listen to soca, Indian music, Arabic music, rap edm jazz. I find the px7s are good for western music but donāt really do well with other genres. For those I prefer the air pods or just normal speakers.
I donāt know what I donāt know. Iāll take any suggestions that come my way. I was told at my local audio store that nothing under 500 bucks would knock my socks off and that I should look at the focals.
The only mandatory requirements I have is that it is closed back. I just donāt have a lifestyle that will allow for significant use of an open back headphone. I would also like a headphone thatās over ear with decent sound isolation.
I thought the elegias would fare well with the instrumental and vocal focused nature of Indian and Arabic music. I guess Iām looking for a pair of headphones that will allow things to be heard the way they were meant to be heard.
@Cardo_Jeremy I have a tiny head so normally a strong clamp force is good for me. If the major criticism of the elegia is the EQ, can it be changed? I was also looking at the drop pandas and the audeze mobius. Not sure if theyāre in the same league as the locals but they will probably be better than my current headphones
If you donāt want to eq the elegia,
the focal celestee 990$
sounds more appropriate . Itās basically the headphone which replace the elegia lineup .
However they will lack space to breathe, thing the elegia is doing a fantastic job at .
The eq i displayed here is the one i utilize for epic soundtrack and orchestra jazz can sound good on the stock but better with the 4k rise .
The elegia possess a dip toward 3-4k range range which can make the elegia sounds weird on some track.
It basically end up making the mid-range thick sounding. Like a pillow over the rest of the frequency.
I bounce between the stock and personal eq .
This one is on a Samsung device.
Since i really enjoy the weird spin the stock elegia can bring on some track ā¦
On the technicalities of the elegia.
Even on stock eq , the elegia is extremely detailed, not metallic sounding but the highs have a lot of information that can be a double edge sword.
They are more resolving more so than hd600.
But they are revealingā¦if itās good mp3 compression you are good to go ,
however would like to point out that the flac and wave have never been more worth it.
The elegia is a monster
As for going out. I hope for you that you live in a safe place, the elegia arenāt that under statedā¦
They more bling-bling irl than on video or photos.
If you enjoy the kph30i the road is gonna be easy
. Go to sennheizer hd600 line up. ( 58x ,6xx, 600,660s)
The 600 lineup wonāt be as bassy as the kph30i.
The (hd600) is the best suited for jaz and orchestra.
You can mod them to make them closed back.