so for clarity they are pretty similiar, both sound very clean but the elegia have a more natural timbre. more acoustic sounding while the sundaras sound very clean, too clean for some people because it removes some of the texture. The speed of the midrange is actually i think better on the elegia and treble too but the bass is faster on the sundara for sure. both have the same type of bass not really tons of it but quality. The main differences i would say is that the midrange in the elegias is more forward and overall itās got alot of slam/punch because of the dynamics while the sundaras are much lighter sounding with little slam in comparison. The elegia is more engaging/aggressive sounding while the sundaras are much chiller because of the lack of dynamics in comparison. When it comes to imaging PERSONALLY i preffer the sundara imaging because the imaging on focals is kinda weird. itās good but i def prefer more traditional imaging.
TLDR the elegia is a step up in almost every way in my opinion
Yeeeeeaaaaahhh buddy! iFi Xbass + Elegia combo. Love it on the Hip Dac! Seriously vibrates on my head with some songs. Need to try it one of these days on the A3 + Zen combo. Seems like a really fun chain.
Thanks for the comparison! It seems the only downside is Adorama does not ships to my country, so I would need to forward them which adds to the cost. But itās such a deal that I may pull the trigger. My only problem is Iām lacking a little in sources right now, Iām still to pull the trigger in a good DAC/Amp (Element II is the most likely). Iām currently with FX DAC X6 and, although competent, Iām starting to feel it lacking a little.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble and thanks for the help! Also tanks to @WaveTheoryfor the excellent review!
the elegia is the only focal that runs perfectly without dac/amp lol. so basically iff u get it u can bypass that. but the sundara you will want a amp/dac. so itās up to you how you do it. and yeah that sucks, that it needs to be forwarded if u were to buy off adorama. However ultimately if you buy it and forward it to your country itās still probably cheaper than an amp/dac plus the sundara
Itās a shame they donāt ship outside the US, or I would have bought a pair already. My local retail is ā¬970, with Amazon being the lowest at ā¬749 new or ā¬649 used. I could get them at the local store for Adorama price levels if I traded in my LCD2-CB though.
Hi hello, Iāll ship to whatever country as long as youāre willing to pay shipping. $425 for elegias. Someone else is interested, but if that falls through Iāll let you know. Mine are pretty much mint. Posted in the Buy/sell thread.
Just picked up an open box from Adorama andā¦ wow. Theyāre the best headphones Iāve heard, beating the Sundara, E-Mu teak, and DT 880 600ohm for effortless detailed mids and macro dynamics with a touch of bass EQ. Anyone have insight as to why these are discontinued?
Love the clamp force, I prefer it a little tighter
Fortunately, it uses the same cable as my HP-3, so I can use my Periapt cable
Crazy detail - love my 177X GO but itās already surpassed; I can hear details beyond any of my headphones
Decided to play around with EQ using the Loki - unlike the 177X GO these respond VERY well to EQ and pushing up the bass a little bit gives a SUPER satisfying result for me. Will continue to listen both with and without EQ
You guys werenāt lying about the bass in relation to the seal on the ears. I wear glasses and Iāve been doing some A/B testing: With my glasses off the bass is great, but as soon as I even begin to slide my glasses underneath the bass drops by like 40% lol. It is straight voodoo. It doesnāt bother me and Iām making some adjustments with EQ, but itās totally true.