šŸ”· Focal Elegia

Snaggy like wood and microphonicā€¦bit like your Maā€™s iron flex :+1:

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Iā€™m with you here. These are a SOLID all-rounder that does most music justice. My Nighthawks are a great complement to the Elegia. I go to the hawks when I want the bass to really thump, but they are definitely not on the same level with the Elegia in terms of clarity, imaging, or separation. I find the sub-bass on the Elegia is very satisfying though. There is a lot of body to the sound when sub-bass is present in the track, but it still allows you to hear all the mids crystal clear because the mid / upper bass isnā€™t getting in the way.

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Itā€™s an in-joke for anyone familiar with the stock cables that come with Focal headphones. Hereā€™s a real Elegia stock cable to show what the joke is all about:
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Bends, janks, very stiff, too short for desktop use. Theyā€™ve got a nice-looking black-and-white sheath, and build quality is good, but theyā€™re pretty unpleasant to use. The extremely high-quality of the headphones make the cables seem even worse than they really are. Still, the stock Focal cables are pretty much a mandatory upgrade.

IOW, the stock Elegia cable is about as valuable and functional as a short, inflexible, black-and-white stick.

Meanwhile, here is a replacement cable I bought for my Focal Stellias from Forza Audioworks:

This cable is like jewelry. Itā€™s long enough to comfortably use in a desktop setting, very supple and flexible, does not transmit any physical noise through the cable (like when the cable rubs on the edge of a desk), and itā€™s gorgeous to look at and a great aesthetic match for the headphones. It also has a 2.5mm balanced termination, which lets me use my headphones with balanced amps in addition to standard 1/4" and 3.5mm single-ended amps, phones, etc.

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is that the Claire series cable? imo Forza has the best looking cables on the marketā€¦ your setup looks incredible man :beers: (and focals are even prettier in person)

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The Focal cable thing is reaching meme levels. Why wouldnā€™t they just include a nicer cable? Seems so weird for a company that otherwise makes such high quality, tasteful products (so I hear).

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Because nobody is allowed to release a perfect product.

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Focal Ganggggg

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Zi cableaux cā€™est baguette!

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I previously asked this question too, and @MON replied they canā€™t be arsed or something along those lines?

im using the stock edition xx cable right now, so the focal cable is looking pretty good at the moment lmao

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Yes, Claire HPC Mk2. I emailed Matt to ask about getting a mix of clear and ā€œtransparent blackā€ shielding since the web store only allowed me to pick either / or. The pure copper and dark shielding makes a bronze color thatā€™s a spot-on match for Stellia.

Thatā€™s actually a pretty old version of my office setup; it has evolved several times since then. The latest, before quarantine / WFH became the new norm, is quite a bit more pimped out:

The older shot shows off the cable better, though.

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Nice niceā€¦ you mentioned getting a 2.5 and using adapters? Do you get them from Forza as well?

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Drop.com has a 2.5mm to XLR for 20$ thatā€™s about as clean of a look you could want. Curious how 2.5m bal does going to 3.5m SE. Iā€™ve heard you donā€™t want to drive SE only headphones from a balanced amp but other way around is ok?

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I got most of my adapters from Norne Audio, including the snazzy Eidolic pouch:

The Eidolic super-short adapters are pricy, but very well-made. Iā€™ve got 2/ea of 1/4", XLR and 3.5mm (the second one was in use when I took this picture). I have a couple miscellaneous 2.5 ā†’ 4.4 balanced adaptersā€“a hard angled one came with my Hiby R6 Pro, and Iā€™ve got a couple pigtail adapters in the photo here. The 4.4 ā†’ 2.5 is so I can try someone elseā€™s 4.4-terminated headphones with my Astell & Kern DAPs.

Yes, in fact Iā€™ve shared this same picture of my rig @ Drop under their 2.5 ā†’ XLR adapter photos. :slight_smile: Iā€™m using Dropā€™s adapter there inbetween the Forza cable and 887. It matches up so well to the Forzaā€™s termination that it practically looks like one cable. I tend to leave the Eidolic connectors in my pouch or use them at home, while I leave the Drop one permanently plugged into the office 887, since all of my headphones have 2.5mm cables.

Short answer, yesā€“the other way is totally fine. In fact, thatā€™s exactly what the stock cable does for you.

The deal is that when an amp has a balanced output, you donā€™t want to short out the L and R paths with a SE cable / SE headphones. Focal headphones all use separate wiring for the 2 earcups, so the headphone is inherently ā€œbalanced,ā€ if it helps to think in those terms. All you need is a balanced cable, and youā€™re good for balanced amps. Some other headphones like Beyerdynamic DT 1770 Pros are single-ended by natureā€“the headphone itself has a 3-pin XLR connection (grounds tied together), so you would not want to use that headphone with a balanced amp, even should you find a cable that lets you make the connection.

Meanwhile, if you use a balanced cable, then the L and R signal paths remain independent all the way through the cable termination. Using a SE adapter (e.g., 2.5 ā†’ 1/4" or 2.5 ā†’ 3.5 TRS) simply ā€œties the grounds together,ā€ effectively turning your balanced cable into a SE cable. Hence, ā€œOne Cable to Rule Them All.ā€ :slight_smile: Itā€™s the same principle that Hart Audio and others follow for their interchangeable cable sets.

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right on, I really like this cable system you have going on. pretty slick and stream line. thanks for all the info :beers:

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Talkin bout my momma?

Just ordered brand new warrantied Focal Elegia for $233 shipped. Donā€™t ask me how, I got a special deal through my work that you can only get if you get a job there :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

It comes with a Dragonfly Red. Would that be enough to drive these adequately from my Macbook Pro? I have Asgard 3 for home use, but want to know how I can make them shine when I have to fly / travel for work

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Elegias are super not picky about amplification. Dragonfly should be fine.

If youā€™re really concerned you could invest in a DAP or hip dac.

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I was eyeing the Xudoo XD-05 Plus since itā€™s USB-C native, Iā€™d be running this from a new MBP so maybe thatā€™s a good fit

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whoa whoa whoa, i need an application

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