šŸ”· Fostex TH900

Yeah I am one of those lucky men who can have several hours long listening session with SO, swaping hp and have a good time.

She also stopped to ask that question: why do you need that many headphones, amps etc but she keeps me in reasonable maners.

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love it…ive had some experience like that, but not much :stuck_out_tongue: the one headphone she really liked was Utopia

she paid for those :smiley:

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I’ve said it before and in borderline ā€œFanboyā€ fashion - I really, really do like the Fostex ā€œsoundā€ especially the TH9xx’s. I know they are are not the most ā€œTechnicalā€ HP but when my head and foot are bobbing and tapping subconsciously while listening to my jams - I pretty much don’t care…

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I can just say I totally agree with you. I am by no means skilled or equipped to comment on technical performance. I can just noobly say this plays my music in way I am engaged and enjoying the hell out of it.

I can tell now those are best closed backs I have for me. Will see what I do with the rest.

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Any suggestion about the pad rolling? I dont have a big issue with stock but can imagine something a touch comfortable

No first hand experience but I really like Yaxi Alcantara pads on 1T Fostex models

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You win sir you win

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I’ve been using my TH900MK2 for a month now and I’ve been totally loving them. I’ve had this issue that I’ve literally forgotten I owned some other headphones, like this set knocks other headphones in my collection completely off my radar.

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They have an uncanny ability to do that.

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Hey guys, looking for some advice,

My current setup is Qutest > V280 > TH900MK2

I find my listening habits have changed a lot; listening to a lot more acoustic pop music with real instruments and vocals with simple reverb effects (kind of gospel singers and bands but singing acoustic pop), and almost hardly listen to pop, hip hop, edm etc.

My issue is my current setup is a bit too dry (wiry), analytical sounding, and a bit too shouty in the top end. I do however enjoy the detail of this setup.

What are best options to give it a bit more musicality and smoothness? I don’t want to veil the treble, just want reduce the energy just a tad bit.

  1. Lawton cups - going by descriptors the type 2’s sound appealing
  2. Lawton pads - no preference or experience
  3. Headphone cables - I had custom made copper balanced (non silver) and it pushed everything even more analytical sounding and extra bright! There was zero reverb and decay. Much prefer the stock SE cable.
  4. Change dacs? I’m not sure if I want to do this, as I’m pretty happy with qutest at the moment.
  5. TH900mk2 anniversary - should have gone for the PW but it doesn’t make sense to buy these now.

Appreciate any advice. Thanks.

EDIT: I also have a pair of Clear OG’s, running it through the same setup, I much prefer the TH900. I’m not very experienced and apologies for the lack of better words, the Clear’s have a Sennheiser type of veil over it, and switching to the TH900’s the vocals are glorious-sounding, more real sounding.

damn if your OG clears have a ā€œveilā€ then I really need to try the TH900 at some point. Mine OG clears are far better than the HD800s and have nothing close to what I would consider a veil over them.

I wonder if you have a bad pair or something was damaged… Or perhaps with the TH900 which has a deep v curve tuning you’re attracted to the treble response between 8k - 12k where it peaks.

I’m not surprised by your edit statement. The TH900 line is a bit source picky but can sound glorious with the right source gear. Vio amps are a good start and the Chord signature complements Vio’s well.

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I got my Pearl White pair of 900’s a few months ago. After listening (adjusting) to them for a couple weeks, my Andromeda 2020’s had an unlistenable ā€œveilā€ as well. I loved the Andros for a year prior, and they were my primary earphone. I ended up selling the Andromedas about a month after I got the TH-900mk2. There’s nothing (that I’ve heard at least) that has the same level of treble clarity.

I originally ran the 900’s off of an RME ADI-2, iBasso DX300, and iFi Diablo. I’ve finally landed on a Schiit Bifrost 2, running through a Burson Soloist 3XP. My pair of TH-900 sound exceptional with this setup. The Bifrost tamed the highs just the tiniest bit, and smoothed everything out. The Soloist really added a ton of space and stage to the music. I was honestly pretty shocked at the difference in sound when I added each of the components. The 900 is a fantastic headphone, but you really need to consider the pieces in your chain because it legitimately matters.

I’ve sold all of my other gear, because this is the most enjoyable setup to my ears.

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It could be the tuning but I think it’s the drivers too. I get the same experience when I tried Denon’s (same drivers but could be mistaken). Switching to Clear’s then to Denon’s, the vocals are freed and glorious, similar to the Fostex but a lot less fun.

Agreed, that’s why I’m a little hesitant to swap the dac. What would be your suggestion? Should I try the Lawton chambers?

Nice. I would say the V280 is like as you described too. The dac however, do you think I’ll lose the Qutest’s details, imaging, and separation if I go to a Bifrost 2? I think I’m a bit hesitant on a dac change hence I’m considering other options?

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I have Lawton purplehearts on mine. I like them but not for all kinds of music. Lawton chambers are an upgrade, though.

Budget? I used a Chord Hugo 2 on my desktop for a stretch, still have it and love it, using it elsewhere now. Now I have a Berkeley Alpha S2 I bought used…but it ain’t cheap.

Have you considered EQ? Reducing the treble (5-6KHz) might help a bit. I also heard the TH610 pads should help while maintaining the original sound signature, but I haven’t tried them. The TH900 are extremely detailed and clear sounding making most things sound ā€œveiledā€ in comparison.

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When I picked up my TH900mk2 Pearl White I was running a Violectric HPA V281 + Schiit Bifrost 2.
I actually liked that pairing quite a bit.

TL;DR
I believe that if you do decide to try another DAC that the BF2 might do well, possibly an Ares II, but I have not heard one personally, nor have heard the Qutest FWIW.

For context: I was using the Unison USB input to the DAC from a PC, and using the balanced outputs from the BF2 into the balanced input on the V281 as it utilizes a true balanced topology. (I am not wanting to get into the debate SE vs Bal – just attempting to be transparent with my configuration.) I used the balanced headphone 4pin output with an Oidio Sound Mongrel cable using the SPC wire.
Note: also have Grave Digger Corpse cables and a few other all copper Litz cables. All cables terminated 4pin XLR. For conversation here, all references can assume I was using the TH900mk2 PW with the Oidio cable.

Before I received my TH900mk2 pw, I had already also begun the hunt for another DAC for other reasons. I found a Soekris dac1541. I matched it up with the V281 and moved the Bifrost to another desk setup.

Using the V281, now with the dac1541 and working the TH900mk2 pw, there was an improvement or, rather maybe a side grade as there were some trade-offs. The Soekris brought with it an expanded stage and greater sense of spaciousness, tighter more accurate bass control but at the sacrifice of punch/slam (You can’t beat the BF2 punch/slam for the money IMO). Detail retrieval, attack/decay also gained a slight advantage with the dac1541 and technically better timbre but again loosing some of that sweetness that the BF2 brought. I remember commenting to someone I felt the Soekris/V281 combo was a little too dry for my tastes – while using the TH900mk2 pw.

Although technically the dac1541 is a better DAC, I think If I was only running the TH900mk2 or, now also the 909’s – I would prefer the BF2. Realizing that I may sacrifice a bit stage width and technical accuracy for a more fun engaging experience while still benefitting from high quality TOTL sound quality you’d expect from a $1.5K phone – and that’s what the Fostex 9xx series is about for me, TOTL Fun.

Using the HEK v2 with the Bifrost 2 and HPA V281 was a different story – with that phone clearly the Soekris/Vio match up was superior to the BF2/Vio, no question. So, I guess all I’ve done is example one more time that synergy plays a huge roll and its not often we can get one dac/amp combo to work well with every phone you bring them.

Cheers

Edit: @reuben3

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@Delta9K

It’s great hearing your experience. I think how you described the Soekris maybe similar to the Qutest. On certain tracks it sounds great however it’s a little too dry sounding at times. Will give the BF2 a shot.

Thanks!

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I’m using a REM ADI-2 to address that issue I went the route of a pad tuning. I picked up the Dekoni Attenuation Ring and the Elite Hybrid replacement pads for theTH900. It ever so slightly modified the the top end, while enhancing the mid performance with out change the sound signature.