Might help to organize thoughts around what’s needed to diagram it out. It sounds kind of like if you’re using the tv out as your source (optical out?), it might make sense to either split the signal or insert a switch to send a signal to both a DAC and your receiver. Some DACs even have a digital passthrough.
What kind of budget did you have in mind? The Tor Roger is a pretty well regarded tube amp that likely warrants a similar quality DAC, though if 650s are the only headphones you’ll use with it, that thought might change.
Actually I appear to have made a mistake, what I received was the Tor USB dac amp (David).
I’m concerned about if I can still connect this unit to my Samsung TV, because I’m getting the impression that the dac is meant to be used with a computer.
I’m just really nervous about opening the box to see its imput options, but i can’t find it listed anywhere online.
Any thoughts?
Update: upon unpacking and inspection of the dac, it indeed has a USB input only, located on top of the unit … along with what appears to be a 6.5 for headphones, as well as RCA outputs.
The back of my television has digital out, which is what I assume is a TOS OUTPUT, and a 3.5 jack that’s currently connected to my stereo via 3.5 to rca audio input.
Would a workable answer to this simply be tos from the tv to usb cable, or do other issues persist?
Ps … I contemplated a receiver a simple sound bar, but I opted for quality audio and also wanted to use already purchased items. I also figured that my home stereo would serve as a receiver of sorts because it does so much.
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Ok, yeah, your only input option on that one is USB, so you’re somewhat limited. Edit: Read the description wrong. Not OTL as they do use transformers. This is essentially the Roger with a USB DAC tacked on.
I have an hdmi port on the Nvidia Shield box but it’s occupied … being attached to my TV. If get get an HDMI splitter, would that work. Or are you familiar with an app that works on the Nvidia Shield (android box-OTG) that’s sucessful, or even any specific tablets?
I was told a while ago but don’t remember which, or specific requirements it would need in order to work.
So, in a quick search, it looks like you may be able to use one of the USB ports on the Shield as your output to the Tor David since the Shield is essentially an Android based computer. I’d give that a shot since there’s really no other way besides USB to get audio to the David.
Hey,
i bump this thread for a little question. what would have more bass between liquid spark and jds atom?
i tested schiit magni heresy and spark and i think spark is better and has more or better bass but i wonder if atom would not be even better? (i like bass and not too bright sound)
i also wonder if it’s normal that my E30 while running via USB show -00.0 PCM
I would generally stick with the spark then, since the atom is more similar to the magni heresy rather than the spark, so the spark is most likely going to be your preference there
I saw this post that said atom bass was different than spark and thought it maybe meant stronger?
i also use it to play video games and wonder if this 3D effect wouldn’t be better for earing where sounds comes from. but it’s more for music (and i prefer better bass)
for comparison i think if i recall correctly that my creative X7 limited had more bass than both spark & magni heresy but worse sound quality overall
Personally stage wise I think the liquid spark is more spacious and large sounding, but the atom has more depth, generally I’d say the spark does better for casual gaming where the atom does better for competitive
ok thanks (: how would you describe the bass difference between the two then if you don’t mind
i wonder what is the design of the atom, i know spark is discrete but can’t find info about atom, i also don’t know what it changes. maybe it’s placebo but i think with the spark my computer handle sounds better, less lag or something (than the op amp magni heresy)
the spark has more prominence in the bass, and is a bit more rounded than full, with more slam and impact, the atom is more linear in the bass and is a bit cleaner and tighter but with less impact and density
Pretty sure the atom is opamp based
So it does handle sound differently for sure, less latency or lag isn’t something that should change though, that sounds more like a dac problem but if you didn’t change anything there then it can come down to other things
Take a tub of Vaseline dip three fingers in it and then smear it over your computer monitor and then see if you can see the immage in the same way. Because that’s the difference between my D10 and my Lampizator Amber 3.
Consider yourself lucky you don’t have to spend so much to achieve happy listening!
i still find that there isn’t enough bass with the liquid spark. maybe it’s the E30 dac? is there something better around the same price bass wise? (still think bass were better and extended lower with the creative X7)
Dacs should all pretty much sound the same – I mean, I’m talking about frequency response only not the 100 other possible technicalities. Although I noticed my SMSL Sanskrit 10th had way more bass “authority” than my AVR (Denon receiver from 2009 I think)… I doubt two recent, “chi-fi” dacs (E30 + sk10th) would sound that different. You won’t get a “bass boost” with a DAC, unless you’re interested about iFi stuff and their dac+amp combos.
I don’t remember well heresy but i felt like it was too mid focused (but i liked it, little bit more than the two others).
between spark and atom, atom definitely has slightly more sub-bass -but slightly less “mid-bass”- (and little bit more harsh treble), but in some song vocals are more veiled than spark.
atom has wider soundstage, when i go back to the spark i feel like something missing. i got the spark before the atom, and after first trying the atom i felt like it was cheap sounding in terms of quality (too analytical?), i think i still do but it’s very slight and still not sure if the better soundstage is a better tradeoff.
some songs are better with liquid spark and some others with atom
for gaming i feel that i struggle much more at earing where footsteps comes from with atom than spark (magni heresy was almost like spark). i feel on atom different sounds are too much on top of each other.
i think i should have taken asgard 3 with the integrated multibit dac…
Nah. The Asgard 3 is a viable Amp long term. If you go down the rabbit hole of higher end DACs you’ll still be able to enjoy it with them. You’re much better off running it as a standalone amp.
I have mine on a Zen DAC V2 right now if you are looking for more suggestions…
