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Just curious what were some examples? Edit: NVM assuming listed below

They are quite nice

Synergy isn’t only tuning as well, you want to make sure other aspects jive as well such as dynamics, presentation, spatial recreation etc

Personally I could care less about topology as both ab and class d amps can sound excellent, depends on the amp itself

How they have fallen overtime lol

I just recently picked up some bricasti m28 to go along with an m21 platinum and it drives the susvara pretty excellent :ok_hand:, I haven’t tried any of the exposure and soulution with headphones, same with yba, but generally not a big leema fan myself

I would agree

Kind of imo, the mini does present differently and is a more forward and slightly brighter sound, less width and more depth than the dynalo, slightly less dry than the dynalo, generally on a somewhat equal tier but they do react differently. Also just to check is this the diy dynalo or the mjolnir dynalo, the mjolnir version is going to be more different from the diy and gsx, but the diy is still different from the gsx, you can still tell they both might sure some characteristics but they don’t sound the same and have a few notable differences from each other

Correct

With a holo dac it can definitely cross the line into being too warm, but I would still personally say it ends up being more resolving of more minute detail and ends up being more spatially impressive than the a90

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I think the big question here comes down to preference. And I think we agree here.

In terms of v280 let’s agree to disagree, I think it’s not better especially for planars :slight_smile:

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The he1000 v2 retails for around $2500 to $3000. The arya for $1600. A local dealer is offering me brand new headphones at $1800 for the he1000 v2 and the arya or $1200.

Price is just
 Price :man_shrugging: already told you my opinion :grin:

So is $1800 for a brand new set a bad value? If i plan to run them on a rnhp would they not be worth the upgrade and wouldn’t reveal their full capabilities?

If it’s brand new with full warranty it doesn’t seem like a bad deal, I was just saying used though I have seen them 1.4-1.5k used (some even lower but with small cosmetic issues)

If you only used a rnhp the arya would most likely preform better since it’s a bit less picky and demanding than the he1kv2, but that being said that’s not really an ideal amp for hifiman either, it’s more geared for dynamics tbh, imo it doesn’t really give enough to really do well in the bass, it still sounds good but not exactly my first choice for the arya (or he1kse)

Thanks for your opinion :ok_hand:

So even with the arya and the rnhp wouldn’t be a good match? I also have a rebel amp and a darkvoice. Are they good enough for the arya or the he1000 v2?

Nope, neither of those are really good amps for planars in general.

The darkvoice is a really bad miss, but the rebelamp did do a pretty solid job with the arya although didn’t really impress me (better than the rnhp tho), personally I haven’t gotten to try a he1kv2 with the rebelamp though, but it would most likely be a better match than the rnhp. Generally in the 500 ish range with the arya I do like the monolith liquid platinum as I find it really ends up driving the hifiman pretty well in terms of punch and impact, and it gives more body to the arya and improves timbre which is nice, you do have more options though as you move up in price

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IMO - and declaring a disclaimer up front that I haven’t heard HE1000 or Arya myself, but am an owner of Edition X V2 and former owner of a THX amp - the HE1000 for 1800 is a killer deal. As @M0N says it may not be best match for RNHP but you could upgrade amps down the road and likely still end up paying significantly less than HE1000 MSRP for the same experience. I respectfully disagree with @skedra that price is just price. Price also reflects material and development cost. Generally speaking, audio products are priced rather consistently for their performance. More often than not that means the higher priced item is the stronger technical performer. However, it is still totally valid to subjectively appreciate the sound signature and characteristics of lower priced models. Individual pieces that truly perform above their price point are rare. In this situation I would be pretty confident saying the HE1000 is the better headphone technically but the Arya has sonic differences that some may prefer. Will this dealer let you listen to both before you buy?

I think all of those are gonna limit both Arya and hekv2.

Of course (those were the budget options), you would really want to move up to something like an xi audio broadway or v281 imo. The auralic taurus mk2 also worked very well with hifiman in that range too. You also might be able to find a bakoon hpa-21 in the range which works very nicely as well imo

Generally the broadway has very good control over the bass with pretty impressive dynamics, a pretty linear and accurate midrange with very good timbre, and it also calms the hifiman treble a tad as well while still being very resolving. The v281 would give a fair bit of drive and a very large spatial recreation, it would also relax the hifiman a bit if you wanted that, but might sound a bit more dry in comparison to the broadway despite the warmth. The taurus is a very full sound with pretty good control but it’s a bit softer but still has good drive, pretty dense and enjoyable with a bit of forgivingness in the sound. The bakoon in current drive makes the arya and he1kv2 sound very linear overall and is really dang fast, although it still sounds pretty organic, very interesting but worthwhile pairing for sure.

I would also mention something like the headamp amps but personally I find them too bright with most hifiman but they work well for a good analytical option. But if you wanted a somewhat more neutral and clean sound but still organic enough the mjolnir dynalo mk2 or pure bipolar drive them pretty well

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No its an online dealer. I just meant local as in local to my country


Ok. Apologies if I missed that earlier. What kind of sound do you prefer? If you like a warmer, fuller sound, you probably want HE1000. If you like a brighter sound, Arya probably.

Both are still brighter though in comparison to other headphones lol. The arya is a more linear sound overall whereas the h1kv2 sounds more crafted in signature, generally though I would say both are well tuned and on the brighter side of things. I would agree that the 1k does sound meatier and more impactful, with a bit more smoothness despite the enhanced technicalities over the arya

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Thanks for clarifying, @M0N. HiFiMans in general tend bright so that statement could have been misleading. I did mean it comparatively.

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I like more of a warmer fuller sound but wow the amp and dac that i need to buy to make the he1000 v2 run properly just wildly adds up money wise :face_with_head_bandage:

To be honest it’s kinda the same for the arya, both really do scale well with higher end amplification and skimping on that will yield not as high performance here (same with dacs but I would focus on the amp first)

Yes, it’s daunting. But you also don’t have to do it all at once. I don’t think anyone here is trying to say that either headphone will sound bad on the RNHP. They’re just saying that you won’t be maximizing it out of the gate. That’s ok. You won’t damage anything. My gut tells me given your stated preferences you should go with the HE1000. TBH, I would be quite surprised if you find a used HE1000 down the road for that price. Meaning, if you go Arya and upgrade amps later one and start wondering what could have been, you may kick yourself for not grabbing HE1000 at that price. That’s just my opinion. Getting either now comes with a ‘wow’ moment - probably - when you first strat listening. You’ll likely get another ‘wow’ moment with an amp upgrade down the road. @M0N has heard just about everything under the Sun that vibrates and makes sound plugged into just about everything else that makes things vibrate, so definitely take what he says under much stronger consideration than me. But also don’t forget you’re playing with house money here. If these deals are legit, Ayra for 1.2K or HekV2 for 1.8K are steals. Enjoy!