Hmm, what were you playing?
Iāve been through Rimworld, squad, all the aoeās, eso, m&b bannerlord, war thunder, planetside 2, and tarkov with the sundaras.
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I hadnāt really thought much about them, to be honest. When I started to look into them I read a couple of instances where they were referred to as having recessed mids, which is not true at all.
I have read everywhere that planarās are supposed to be very bassy. I just find that the Sundaraās have a very nice bass. Not really as pronounced as my Fostexās or even my Meze 99ās, but almost perfectly done.
I am not a bass head, I just want to hear those drums. 
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Lately, mainly COD Warzone.
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personally I didnāt find the imaging to be as well defined on the sundaras as say the beyers. They were not my preferred gaming headphone
What impedance Beyerās?
250 ohms for me. Iād second the above imaging / soundstage claims that the sundara feels better for those.
see me in the gulag
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nah man, tarkov labs is where itās at. The ultimate in sound whoring lol. tarkov is made or broke by the sound
if only there werenāt so many hackers and the servers worked lol. Might be fucking playable
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I never understood this claim either
seems to be the consensus but yeah these are not thatā¦ a part of me is definitely a bass head lol and the sundaras can deliver nice nice bass when called upon but doesnāt have that slam that bass heads look forā¦ more like a nice even quality bass
glad youāre liking them though
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Loving my new Sundaras as well. Pretty much as others have said. Enough, clean bass, great vocals, and crisp treble. Though eclectic in tastes I especially like orchestral, (having played for 20 years) and these sound very ācorrect.ā A really balanced headphone!
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Personally Iād say planar = bass is something of a misconception. Planar bass is fast and has great impact and slam, but this does not equate to bass quantity. However does have excellent quality. Both planars Iāve owned (lcd2f, sundara) have had really clean tight bass with good impact but in terms of quantity fall short of the closed biodynamics i have like the purplehearts and eikons. Of course thereās probably planars out their with big quantity as well.
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im not an authority here but what I here is these tributes are typically attributed to dynamic drivers (minus the fast part) I thought?.. x00ās and nighthawks and dt770ās have more slam than anything ive personally heard ( z7ās and pretty sweet too 
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this may be one of those instances where definitions are subjective too lol
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far from an expert myself just going on personal experience but as I understand it planar tends to have more speed and faster attack. Thereās also some debate on what slam actually is so subjectivity definitely factors in here. I would definitely not say one is better than the other (in regards to bass) but there is certainly some distinguishing sound characteristics for both and painting either broadly is probably not accurate
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my bad I edited my post to not include speedā¦ id like to hear an lcd to hear how slam and impact compete (at least my subjective definition of it lol)
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what is slam is talking point resolve reviews likes to bring up a lot and talked about it a bit with the audeze ceo recently
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btw timptim44 looking forward to a review when you have more time with them!
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@Jose_G Will definitely do. Cool we both got them about the same time. These are WAY better than my 4xx. Cleaner and better mids.
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it really is cool that we got them around the same time. always makes it funner. same thing happened when i got the 4xx and 58x, was around the same time as a few other people ha. cool to have comparisons because of that. and i agree, these sound cleaner more refined and waaay better mids than the 4xx which is super nice. biggest difference for me tho is the timbre. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy more real.
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Yesā¦and I am super fussy about timbreā¦these are spot on! Fun sharing!
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You are getting me hype. I currently have the HE4XX and am getting the Edition XX on Thursday. Timbre hasnāt been an issue for me though. I guess it just isnāt something Iām very picky of.
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