Yeah. The Echo is an OTL tube amp.
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I can confirm that the Sundara sounds really good on a hybrid amp. I have a TA-20 and that pairing is pretty sweet.
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Is it just me that finds the Sundara to have a certain weightiness throughout the whole frequency range that gives everything a thick sound? Itâs masking a lot of detail that I can easily pull out with my Shure 1840/1540âs which are definitely more airy and light sounding.
Does anyone else experience this and is it something that can be rectified with a change of pads, eq, or something more surgery-like?
If it can be solved with EQ are there any base settings to hand as a starting point?
I use the Oratory1990 harman target eq settings but i doubt thats what you are looking for.
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Thanks, Iâve had a little look around but havenât experimented with EQ yet.
I ordered a cheap ÂŁ15 cable from Amazon as the OEM one was pathetic. It used to drop the HF from both channels when I moved the cable (in a particular way) at the 3.5mm jack at the amp side - very strange thing to happen as the low-end was still ok. The cable must have had a high-resistance or something due to a bad connection as the new cable is completely different. Much more sparkle to the highs and the bass is definitely more controlled/less fluffy. Iâm going to check out the OEM cable and see whatâs up with it.
My favorite combo for Sundaras is the zen DAC with bass boost and the g111 as an Amp
What can I say i love that bass button 
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The original cable aka the medical tubing is an insult to any customer to be honest. Needs to be replaced asap.
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How am i the only one who kinda likes it xD
There are diffrent versions of it as far as I know. A better one and the stiff tubing one I receivedâŠ
I must have received the stiff tubing type, it just wouldnât straighten out either. The perma-coiled effect was only good for storing the cable away. It is now stored. Permanently.
Hmmmm⊠Mine maintained a bit of itâs ârolled upâ state.
But not too much⊠Over the entire length it at rest now maybe bends about 45-ish degrees?
Actually seems to work well in my setup. Though I only use it when at my PC. When att the TV I got my amazing Periapt 
Nevermind, the new pair sounds bassier.
So⊠after playing some music for bit through the Sundaraâs then pausing playback my set seems to make a clicking noise through both drivers. Itâs akin to light rain hitting a tin roof. This happens even when unplugged from the amp so I guess itâs mechanical, residual electrical static?, or possibly to a lesser extent thermal? It gets worse the longer theyâre played.
I guess my next question is⊠What are the alternatives in the legacy headphone manufacturerâs market with the same tuning? Iâve literally given up with Chi-Fi gear at this point.
I heard Hifiman has good customer service. Maybe you could reach out? Perhaps you have a faulty unit
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Yeah they could very well have but I think my best option is returning them to the seller unfortunately.
The sound is fantastic but I canât enjoy them due to niggly little problems that may occur at any time, even with a replacement set.
Looking the the ATH-R70X to replace them.
(P.s. not saying all chifi are bad, or all legacy manufacturers are faultless)
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I havenât read all the posts, but from what I gathered, it looks like there are minimal-to-no differences in sound between the stock âPaliPadsâ and Dekoni hybrids? Iâve only had these headphones for a few months and generally quite careful with them, but the padâs surface on the left side is starting to separate (I assume glue-related) exposing the blue foam underneath.
Are the Dekoniâs of substantially better quality where I donât have to worry about that in the future, or am I better off buying a second set of PaliPads from Hifiman?
I personally havenât had any trouble with my stock pads, so Iâm assuming you got a bad pair.
However one does hear a lot of complaints about QC at Hifiman, so I think your chanses with Dekoni are better. But since youâve only had them a few months, why not contact hifiman customer support? In most countries youâre still under warranty right?
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Small update to my post, the older pair has actually more treble and will be sold today. I must have mixed them up. The older pair has a smidge more treble while the mids and bass are pushed slightly in the back. I immediately wanted to turn up the volume (to make the mids/bass louder) until I realized why.
Hey guys,
I received the sundara last week from a shop based here in the UK.
So far I have mixed feelings regarding these headphones, with such praise being handed out I was expecting their to be no issues, however despite enjoying the natural tone and timbre I find them to be at times a little dull sounding with not enough weight and body on instruments.
Iâm running these on a gustard H16 so power is not an issue, has anyone else come across what I am describing?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Jacques