IEM discussion thread (Part 2)

Thanks bud, I love 07 OG and like many, you are absolutely right it’s a monster with vol scaling. Many of our fans are part of this “short bus” - some of those in the AudioGeek tour group in Europe have demo’ed the EJ10 engineering unit and placed order EJ10 (everyone demo’ed placed order already), I think once we able to produce EJ10, many will love it. Since you are one existing 07 OG fan, I think you will love EJ10 too.

Personally I called it our new king taking our EJ series to new height, perviously EJ07 OG not able to, stayed tuned as soon as we have the units ready will be sending out for reviews etc. And I will hopefully have some for upcoming CJ London in around 3wks’ time

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Nice review.

The more I read about the C4, the more it seems to be a sleeper hit or overlooked gem. Very little hype, but everyone who has heard it enjoys or loves it.

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Thanks!
Yeah this hobby is strange sometimes and some sets get all the hype and a few months later no one talks about them anymore.
There´s also way too much new stuff coming out to keep track (Yes i am looking at you Ziigaat :-D).
It took me quite a while to finally demo C4 but i was always very curious about it.
Really appreciate the possibility to demo so many sets within the Audiogeeks community :pray:

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Pricing is not only a more drivers more money game, besides 2 EST cost more than 6 BAs at least…

A crimson has 4 BAs but cost more than a monarch, and sounds better as well!

But there is some sort of correlation often.

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Depends on the BAs actually. The cheapest ones for sure are cheaper but the more expensive BAs from Knowles/Sonion may be more expensive than a dual “EST” from Sonion.

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Allright! seems i’m not up to date with driver prices then. I just know that the EST monopoly has lead to them becoming even more expensive over the years. rare for a electronic technique/device.

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Thieaudio is also part of a big company where Symphonium is, like, 5 dudes. A lot of what you are paying for is margin against scale to manufacture as well as a “bespoke” product.

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Example would be this BA
https://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Knowles/CI-22955-000?qs=3unH%2FDqlvl8EWdn2%2BxaxZg%3D%3D


6 of those at the max discount there, 22 usd would be 132 usd.

Even a quad EST here.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006257872036.html
is cheaper.

But yeah atm Sonion is the only one afaik with a “EST” like this

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yeah, and the know how, build etc etc.

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I thought it was 200+ but the more you know! tack!

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I’ve been waiting for Serenade since canjam SoCal 24–it scaled well with plenty bass and amazing female vocals. So are you saying that Serenade evolved more into EJ10 and serenade’s EST s got switched out to microplanar? When will EJ10 be available to order?

No no Serenade didn’t evolve into EJ10, we have not finalised Serenade yet but latest version from HighEnd Munich it has Micro-planar for treble.

Long story short is that EJ10 evolved from my personal project with our lead engineer to address my main “wish lists” for my personal CIEM EJ07. First one I got was about 2yrs ago and he addressed some of the short falls to become EJ10.

Edit: EJ10 will hopefully be available by end of the month if production progressed well etc. you can find some of the reviews in recent Watercooler thread on HF. If you are serious about EJ10, can pm me to help you

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This one could be interesting

’ Its configuration features 10mm DD + 2×ED + 1×custom wbfk. The ‘Que’ demo boasts exceptionally smooth ultra-high frequencies’

It’s on Taobao for ~$340USD-converted of course

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Not with that tuning it won’t ^

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the tuning does look interesting to me, could be a viable low volume set.

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Here’s a quick Letshuoer double-header: the single-DD DX1 ($160) and the hybrid Cadenza 4 ($250). Thanks to AudioGeek EU for organizing the tour! I just listened to these ones breifly, so take this as a first impression.

DX1

The DX1 has an 11mm aluminum-magnesium dynamic driver with 108dB/mW sensitivity and 30Ω impedance. Bass isn’t high-volume, but high quality. Exceptional subbass extension for a single DD with satisfying rumble. Good bass balance even though it’s not forward in the tuning, with a nice bit of physical impact to the midbass. Not a super technical set.

Vocals sound a bit relaxed - I’d like more presence and bite. Despite that, very natural sounding male and female vocals. Smooth, there is some treble energy, but nothing sticks out or is sharp. Not much air or sparkle.

Nice for the price, especially for great subbass extension and relaxed vocals, while still keeping some treble energy. Very efficient and easy to drive. Shell is heavy but small, so it fits nicely.

Cadenza 4

The Cadenza 4 uses a 10mm beryllium-coated DD with three BAs (1 Sonion + 2 Knowles) with 102dB/mW sensitivity and 15Ω impedance. The C4 is a bit like a mini Mystic 8 in terms of vocal presentation, just much less refined and with less extension on both ends - subbass and air. For the price, good technicalities: detail retrieval and separation. This is a great set to sample the great vocal timbre you hear in LS’s more expensive sets like Mystic 8, Cadenza 12, and the upcoming EJ10.

I like them, but they’re a touch spicy in the treble for me. I prefer the DX1 bass, but the vocal timbre is much better on the Cadenza 4: more forward and engaging, while DX1 is more relaxed. Bass was okay, nothing standout. Brings a nice bit of punch without sticking out too much in the mix. Not that sub-bassy.

I prefer the Cadenza 4 over the DX1, especially for the more engaging vocal timbre, but it does cost $100 more. The DX1 bass did impress me though (not a basshead set by any means, of course).

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Appreciate the quick rundown, feels like you really listened even in a short session haha. Now I’m curious to see how these stack up with more ear time!

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Night Obivion Uranium
20 Balanced Armature audiophile In-earphone IEM

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