IEM discussion thread

Where did you find that sale?

Go Lava/EJ07m if you can.

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A user on HeadFi

Lava, if it cost 475. Tea2 is around 350, the 125$ addition feels like a worthy upgrade.

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What is the main difference between the Lava and the EJ07m?

The Lava added a bit more mid bass to give percussion more oomph.

Which is a better choice for EDM / synth pop?

Lava has a db more mid bass and less sub, giving it more clarity on the replay and a touch of noteweight.

It’s all about relatives. If you decrease a frequency, others show up. By removing sub and adding mid, you get more of everything, less of sub. If I had to put a giant tunel vision glass to explain it, I would say ej07m is trying to tilt more into U shape while the KL are more balance.

Again, they are both close and very good and marginally the same.

For those only, probably 07m. Pure eletronic is where they shine.

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Hear that whooshing, sucking sound? It’s me being pulled into the crazy iem
world. :wink: Love the spatial presentation, vocal detail, bit of bass rumble,…
Olinas. Definitely some bone conduction effects here.

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Bought the Olinas as my first IEMs few months ago. I really like them, but I’m curious about how other sets might sound like. Any recommendations for an Olina’s upgrade? I have a large music genre library but mostly listen to rock and jazz. Timbre is really important for me. Improvement of mids would be awesome.

Thanks!

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Would you care to share your budget? To improve on all that, it’s gonna be spendy.

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Have you thought of earbuds?

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dbz-dragonball-z

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I’m learning, master.
But yeah, I have earbuds in my ears right now, listening to bossa nova/samba music, and the sax sounds realistic (good note-weight).

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300 to 500 USD for the moment. Might spend more in the future, but for my 2nd set I can’t spend more than that. I also plan on buying a DAP (probably Sony NW-A55) since I don’t want to use my phone as my main music player. I get distracted all the time!

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Never thought about it. Are there good earbuds sets for my needs?

Not sure about rock as I don’t listen to as lot of that genre (maybe indie rock), but for jazz/acoustic/instrumental, I really like earbuds. Also, if you wanna just give them a try, there are several cheap options (like 10-50 USD) that are supposed to be very good for the price. You can look at @Rikudou_Goku’s database: RikudouGoku's Database - Google Sheets.
I have one of Riku’s DIY buds, which was 50 euros before shipping, and I use them a lot more than my Olina and S12 at the moment.
Some pros of earbuds over IEMs:

  • Cheaper, so doesn’t break the wallet to try (better price/performance at the moment)
  • Easy to pop in and out of the ear (although comfort may be an issue)
  • Timbre & coherency are very good (single DD)
  • Haven’t had any sibilance issues
  • Stage can feel more open (although if you jump to 300-500++ USD IEMs, I don’t think earbuds can always beat those sets, mainly due to better imaging in IEMs, see below)

Some cons of earbuds over IEMs:

  • May be uncomfortable if used for >2 hrs at a time. E.g., I have no issues using my Yanyin Canon for 3-4 hrs, while I have to take a break from earbuds after 1-2 hrs
  • Very little noise isolation
  • Imaging: Olina, S12, and Canon all have better imaging than my earbud, granted my earbuds were cheaper than all of them…
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The LBBS price/performance champion (IMO) goes on sale tomorrow for $42.(Looks like it’ll be $39 with the coupon?)

US $39.36 52%OFF | 2021 Temperament/Ksearphone Bell-LB/Bell-LBs 3.5mm Bass HIFI Metal Earphone 15mm Dynamic Driver Earbud Headset Flat Earplug

Make sure to order the “BellLBs-no mic” option (the s is key).

(It’s a little more on Amazon of you want the faster shipping.)

Thus bud ranks 2nd on Riku’s commercial list behind only the $320 Chaconne.

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For rock, I wouldnt rec the LBBS. If they want branded buds, I would get the Qian39, Faaeal Iris 2.0 or the Yincrow X6 for that.

(or go rikubuds, at least 50% of my library is rock lol.)

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