šŸ”¶ KZ ZEX Pro Tribrid

Received a pair of these in the post today. Initial impressions:

Fit: They are designed to fit a human ear. Luckily I am in possession of such an ear. So they went in first time, like a glove. Didnā€™t even swap the tips that came fitted. Zero movement, snugly residing fully in place. Fit and comfort of IEMs is almost the most important factor for me, no matter how good they sound if they are hanging out of my ear, or need constant adjustment then they are probably going into the drawer permanently.

Sound: OK, Iā€™ve been going through songs that I had on heavy rotation last year, thrown into a hastily assembled playlist. Hastily Assembled Playlist

I Have A Love (Overmono Remix) - such an emotional song. Almost hard to stay in analytical mode. I think I prefer the remix to the original (though I did hear the remix first). The vocals seem a little low at the start behind the higher frequency synths. Waiting for the transition at the 3:30 mark, a little subdued. But overall very articulate presentation of the track.

Hand of God - Nick Cave. This song has some weird transitions, a lot of which happens in the opening 30 seconds. Thereafter it is pretty subdued.

Grapes of Wrath - Weezer. Comes right in with bassy strings and percussion. Makes me rethink my perception of the mid bass being missing. This song sounds right. Nothing seems out of place.

Afrique Victime - Mdou Moctar. A very guitar centered song, with a driving rhythm. Vocals initially seem forward. Then again the song starts with very scant backing instrumentation, once it gets going after about 1:20 things are better. At times the lead guitar licks seem almost too forward.

Paprika - Japanese Breakfast. The bass drum at the starting drop around 30s definitely feels like itā€™s missing some oomph. And the vocals thereafter are quite forward. More forward than the brass.

Movement 6 - Floating Points/Pharoah Sanders. Feels a little out of place on the playlist, and also I generally listen to this album from start to finish. Nonetheless, iā€™m expecting some big swells in this track. The violins at about 4:30 :ok_hand: Instrument separation is good. Violins around 8:40 are probably just on the safe side of piercing. Good presentation of this track, but I think we were close towards the end to an ear hurting zone.

He Said She Said - CHVRCHES. Opens with some thumps. Sounds great. No complaints on this track. Everything in the right place.

Days Like These - Low. This is a song with spikes of distortion (sounds like intentional clipping at times). The whole album is a bit of a sonic rollercoaster. The male vocal in the first half again seems more forward than Iā€™m used to. The whole song is a little brighter than I would expect. Thereā€™s a king of slow bass drum through a lot of the song, starts of quite low. Itā€™s maybe lower than I would expect in the mix.

Seventeen Going Under - Sam Fender. Another guitar song. The vocals seem at about the right level. The kick after a minute is good. Hard to fault the presentation of this track.

Chaeri - Magdalena Bay. Again prominent stuff in the bass region from the start. Hits nicely.

Hurt - Arlo Parks. Arlo sounds good. Again noting good separation of the various elements. This songs sounds clean, precise.

Summary thoughts:
Restraint, but not hollow or thin. The mids are pretty good.
There is a very ā€œcleanā€ or precise feeling (an absence of muddiness).

In some ways they remind me of the MSR7, which I briefly owned (but did find piercing and returned thereafter). I think my general preference is something warmer in the mid bass, but I find it interesting that certain tracks sound as expected, while others not so much.

Interestingly these are the second pair of Crinacle tuned earphones Iā€™ve picked up recently. Compared to the FHE these feel more musical, but a lot less thumpy. Neither are perfect, and both are obviously quite different. I get a sense that his objective is to tune something idiosyncratic rather than perhaps necessarily optimally tuned or close to some broad ideal (or maybe heā€™s just having fun with some memes).

Will definitely listen to the new albums drops this week through these. (new Big Thief drops on Friday, not sure what else of note).

Havenā€™t really read or watched too many other reviews of this set, so donā€™t know what if any consensus has been reached. Iā€™ve spent most of the day under a pair of EMU Teakā€™s as well which may have coloured my impressions.

My chain for this: Spotify - > SMSL Sanskrit 10th MK2 - > Gesheli Archel 2.5 - > JDS Labs OL Switcher.

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Great review.

I do agree with :100: on this. Since they are tuned differently than my other sets they have a place.

What do you think of the soundstage? I think they have a pretty good SS.

Now Iā€™m curious about See audio Midnightā€¦

For an IEM, soundstage is pretty good. Not super wide, but as I said good separation. Doesnā€™t feel like all the music is coming from inside my head (if that makes sense). More like itā€™s orbiting my head.

Listened to the new Cate Le Bon album after I finished writing that post. That album sounds great on these IEMs.

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The Crin Eq improves things greatly.

Although the 5db low shelf seems a lot.

Well this is interestingā€¦

Claims that neither the BA nor the electret drivers in the KZ CRN are producing sound.

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Someone earlier exposed that DQ6ā€™s 2 smaller DD are the same, fluke drivers, put there to serve zero purpose.

So expect that ZEX, DQ6, DQ6s are all the same: All are just single DD sets.

CCA as KZā€™s sister brand is similar:

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Some more statements from crinacle on reddit.
(link to the crinacle comment)

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/t78yuv/kz_gets_exposed_for_putting_decorative_drivers_in/hzgahf6?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

Answers my question of how all these reviewers ā€œtuneā€ the IEMs in collaborations when they donā€™t even notice that 2 drivers are useless. They just show a graph and say ā€œmake it like thisā€ā€¦

Was expecting they at least play around with nozzles, filters and foams like @Rikudou_Goku does. Itā€™s getting time that You get your collaboration.

Wonder if @hawaiibadboy noticed anything while working on the DQ6.

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I have asked KZ on a collab for my DQ6 mod and Tanchjim with the Echo mod. Nope to both. Brands are after the big guys only.

Either way I dont really care about iems atmā€¦burnt out.
Im doing DIY buds now. And I have 100% control on what I can do.

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my DQ6s has the same coherency issue as the DQ6 (better but still present) as that sounds unlikely to happen with a single DD the possibility of doa drivers exists

Can understand the frustration.

Itā€™s funny how some of the big companies wonā€™t let people like you receive a sample or something, but would happily send it to a person with less than 1000 followers (itā€™s a female, if thatā€™s relevant ā€” perhaps a marketing tacticā€¦ we all know how companies try to exploit the female gender).

At the end of the day, it lets you know the true intentions of these big guys.

The game is dirty, Iā€™ve said this multiple times. Time after time, we get drama stuff like this.

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Food for thought:

No matter how big or small you are, you should seriously question the purpose of a collaboration. You should know with whom you are working.

I have a very, very short list of companies with whom Iā€™d collaborate, and I can count them on a single hand with some fingers missing :wink:

Not all of us view things the same, but I always look for true intention and quality from a manufacturer. Not a whole lot of those in the industryā€¦

Crinacle adresses the situation and gives some insight of the tuning process.

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Honestly I bought second hand CRN couple of weeks ago that I got to test just today and - that may be not very popular opinion at the moment - I really like them, especially with treble PEQā€™d. They are really melodic, so provide me good listening experience on thebgo (if I can say so), they have perfect fit for me, the build is also decent for the price.
Keep in mind it costed me like 22$, so nothing really to complain, but even comparing to another single DD (:blink:) I recently bought (Olina) and I really love I would say that CRN is still a huge steal. It is like 80-90% in rally random numeric scale of Olina, so diminishing return hits hard in this hobby after threshold of 10$ MH755

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yehā€¦they may sound good, but the problem still comes back to them lying, misrepresenting what their product is and how it performs.

this is going to seriously hurt any plans KZ may have had in the works for higher end products as what they are will be called in to question. they may recover from this debacle and stain on their nameā€¦but I see it taking quite some time.

I have no doubt any new product is going to be torn down to prove it is what they say it is.

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From @hawaiibadboy

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Yes, I agree that the whole situation makes KZ sound like frauds (and it is technically a fraud what they did), but from practical point of view they are still really good for the money. And that is what a lot of people could care about.
On side note: until it is being clarified, I am not buying anything from them as I hate being lied about anything

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Valid point, yet from an ethical perspective, as cheap as they are, is it really worth the customerā€™s money to support a brand that blatantly lies and accuses its customers continuously for year just for the sake of ā€œIā€™m getting this because itā€™s a cheap doorwayā€?

Basically, thatā€™s how these shit companies continue to thrive with no moral responsibility, because there are always folks who will think that ā€œa deal is a dealā€ without thinking of what behavior from the company theyā€™ve just supported. The only way to stop these companies from ever lying again is to completely hurt their sales, a sad reality of the business world.

Food for thought. :pancakes: :coffee:

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It is weird because Crinacle says that the drivers DO work, and they produce sound, but it seems that it doesnā€™t affect the FR graph.

It might be because those drivers make sound lower than the DD? So it could affect sound without showing on the graph? As a ā€œbackgroundā€ or more ā€œsecondaryā€ sound?

I am just asking because I donā€™t know how really the FR graphs work.

graphs donā€™t always tell the whole story but I havenā€™t heard of anyone doing a A/B with a new set and a disconnected set

AKROS disconnected the driver and got the same graph. He has since repeated the experiments on a couple other KZ sets.

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