Someone earlier exposed that DQ6âs 2 smaller DD are the same, fluke drivers, put there to serve zero purpose.
So expect that ZEX, DQ6, DQ6s are all the same: All are just single DD sets.
CCA as KZâs sister brand is similar:
Some more statements from crinacle on reddit.
(link to the crinacle comment)
Answers my question of how all these reviewers âtuneâ the IEMs in collaborations when they donât even notice that 2 drivers are useless. They just show a graph and say âmake it like thisââŠ
Was expecting they at least play around with nozzles, filters and foams like @Rikudou_Goku does. Itâs getting time that You get your collaboration.
Wonder if @hawaiibadboy noticed anything while working on the DQ6.
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I have asked KZ on a collab for my DQ6 mod and Tanchjim with the Echo mod. Nope to both. Brands are after the big guys only.
Either way I dont really care about iems atmâŠburnt out.
Im doing DIY buds now. And I have 100% control on what I can do.
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my DQ6s has the same coherency issue as the DQ6 (better but still present) as that sounds unlikely to happen with a single DD the possibility of doa drivers exists
Can understand the frustration.
Itâs funny how some of the big companies wonât let people like you receive a sample or something, but would happily send it to a person with less than 1000 followers (itâs a female, if thatâs relevant â perhaps a marketing tactic⊠we all know how companies try to exploit the female gender).
At the end of the day, it lets you know the true intentions of these big guys.
The game is dirty, Iâve said this multiple times. Time after time, we get drama stuff like this.
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Food for thought:
No matter how big or small you are, you should seriously question the purpose of a collaboration. You should know with whom you are working.
I have a very, very short list of companies with whom Iâd collaborate, and I can count them on a single hand with some fingers missing 
Not all of us view things the same, but I always look for true intention and quality from a manufacturer. Not a whole lot of those in the industryâŠ
Crinacle adresses the situation and gives some insight of the tuning process.
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Honestly I bought second hand CRN couple of weeks ago that I got to test just today and - that may be not very popular opinion at the moment - I really like them, especially with treble PEQâd. They are really melodic, so provide me good listening experience on thebgo (if I can say so), they have perfect fit for me, the build is also decent for the price.
Keep in mind it costed me like 22$, so nothing really to complain, but even comparing to another single DD (:blink:) I recently bought (Olina) and I really love I would say that CRN is still a huge steal. It is like 80-90% in rally random numeric scale of Olina, so diminishing return hits hard in this hobby after threshold of 10$ MH755
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yehâŠthey may sound good, but the problem still comes back to them lying, misrepresenting what their product is and how it performs.
this is going to seriously hurt any plans KZ may have had in the works for higher end products as what they are will be called in to question. they may recover from this debacle and stain on their nameâŠbut I see it taking quite some time.
I have no doubt any new product is going to be torn down to prove it is what they say it is.
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Yes, I agree that the whole situation makes KZ sound like frauds (and it is technically a fraud what they did), but from practical point of view they are still really good for the money. And that is what a lot of people could care about.
On side note: until it is being clarified, I am not buying anything from them as I hate being lied about anything
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Valid point, yet from an ethical perspective, as cheap as they are, is it really worth the customerâs money to support a brand that blatantly lies and accuses its customers continuously for year just for the sake of âIâm getting this because itâs a cheap doorwayâ?
Basically, thatâs how these shit companies continue to thrive with no moral responsibility, because there are always folks who will think that âa deal is a dealâ without thinking of what behavior from the company theyâve just supported. The only way to stop these companies from ever lying again is to completely hurt their sales, a sad reality of the business world.
Food for thought. 
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It is weird because Crinacle says that the drivers DO work, and they produce sound, but it seems that it doesnât affect the FR graph.
It might be because those drivers make sound lower than the DD? So it could affect sound without showing on the graph? As a âbackgroundâ or more âsecondaryâ sound?
I am just asking because I donât know how really the FR graphs work.
graphs donât always tell the whole story but I havenât heard of anyone doing a A/B with a new set and a disconnected set
AKROS disconnected the driver and got the same graph. He has since repeated the experiments on a couple other KZ sets.
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as I said graphs donât always tell the whole story did he listen to them A/B and say they sounded the same?
Given that is has now been verified on at least three different KZ models, including both the HBB and Crinacle collabs. I donât think how an A/B sound test came out could be the problem.
The drivers not setup to produce audible sound on the other hand, does seem to be a problem, since it means that they are selling people hardware that they know isnât doing anything. That is pretty sleazy.
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Someone tried to accuse dunu of doing the same thing (having drivers just for the count). They immediately responded with data and extinguished the potential fire.
But what the poster found is interesting: disconnecting the EST had a huge effect on the impedance, but the effect on FR wasnât really obvious. So it seems that what we hear in hybrid earphones is mainly the DD (about 85-90%): the other drivers just complement it.
In the case of kz, it seems clearer though: the 6mm drivers in the dq6 are just drown in glue, and the sound tubes arenât even connected to the nozzleâŠ
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The person who made that post on Facebook was Tyvan Lam, director of marketing for KZ, he also produces the graphs for KZ (they use a wierd IEC mic) and tunes the iems.
It was literally a KZ employee that posted that to try to spread some of the flames to another brand (DUNU wasnât having it, the post was literally slander)
if you looked at the graphs of his little
DUNU post youâll notice itâs off the mic KZ uses, the picture was even taken the same way he shares his KZ graphs privately (this is his graph of the CCA CA10)
KZ does this, and bots the facebook community, and releases a (frankly) piss poor statement to address all of it, in their statement they ignored most of the issues raised and they spread a false narrative about the DQ6 (that only some units were affected by glue) instead of admitting the malicousness of their design.
i can go on and on and on, one day Iâll make a documentary on YT about just how evil this company is behind the scenes. You have no idea.
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