You’re going to have to explain that logic to me. I say “almost certainly” because Zen4 has been out less than a week and I haven’t had a chance to start digging into info about what they are like OC’d. I literally don’t know if Intel’s chips pull more power while OC’d. But given that the 12900K pulls over 300W when OC’d, I’d say that it’s likely that Intel chips do indeed pull more power in that scenario. But, again, I don’t know that.
When you’re OCing, typically power isn’t a concern.
Yep, this further proves a point for myself that I am sticking with my RTX 3080 until it dies. I am not going to fall for peer pressure anymore when it comes to upgrading my PC anymore especially nowadays for I think it’s much better to get a realistic upgrade where I believe I need it but can still keep the parts that I am using that are still working. Only the CPU and an additional SSD for me and it will be all good for me.
Also with that price for the GPUs that they are selling? I’d rather get a large amounts of food, clothes, tools and utilities than buying their GPU. Fuck you Nvidia
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I’m still not understanding how I’m supposed to be an Intel fan boy. They, and AMD as well, are a multi-billion dollar corporation that exist solely to maximize shareholder profit. The only reason I even have an Intel system is because when I built it, Zen3 CPUs, specifically the 5900X, were unicorns.
Im still gonna keep my eye on AMD’s GPUs just to see what they have in store but ya i think ill be sticking with my 3070TI for the foreseeable time unless i get a really solid deal (sold my 2070 Super for 65% of the cost of the 3070TI )
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Let’s hope AMD can take advantage of the situation especially with EVGA. If AMD can make an EVGA AMD GPU that also rivals the RTX 40 series with better performance and more reasonable price, they are going to win for it’s needed so that someone can slap Nvidia’s greedy mug for a change.
Well seems like my 1080 I got before all of this insanity for 200 bucks has a few more years of service going for it if I see these prices 
Even buying used like I always did, got really expensive the last two years 
But hey maybe I can get some good deals for a 5000 series CPU and Mobo combo with am5 coming 
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AFAIK, Intel currently pulls more power for the same performance (except their kinda-sorta fabricated edge cases with AVX-512 workloads).
For both Intel and AMD, wait a couple of months before buying any of the new platforms, else you will be enjoying the software bugs.
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I’ve been using an old Samsung View streaming Amazon Music via wifi & bluetoothing AptX Classic to an iFi Zen Blue V2.
I thought I would be able to use the tablet’s micro USB port for a digital audio out, but apparently not.
I’ve been buying a few different DACs to try expecting to use them with my tablet, but I think it’s a no go.
Now I would like some recommendations for a tablet or laptop with a clean/decent enough USB and or optical audio output for streaming Amazon UHD/HD music that I won’t have to sell a kindney to afford.
You could go for a 2-1, there are a few, like the Microsoft surface which detach from the keyboard, or go for something that flips the keyboard to the back.
Another option which im considering myself, is hooking up an external monitor with a touch screen. which would be a lot cheaper but im assuming some jenkyness will accrue
My first concern is having high enough audio quality at the source & a physical digital output, USB/Optical. It will only be used for streaming Amazon Music. It needs wifi connectivity too.
I wouldnt be that concerned, unless you are talking something mega jank most USB connection are fairly clean, keep in mind that modern laptops have decent enough chipsets (even a few years back) to negate most problem unless you are talking very budget and its a digital output after so its much less susceptible to interference
Exactly the same plan here as well, for I know that right now it’s impossible for me to get the 7000 series, and if I do get one for myself, a lot of my parts are going to be replaced therefore for me it makes sense to get a 5000 series CPU instead.
Well, for those who live near a Microcenter, this could help soften the financial blow for those wanting to adopt AM5
You know, I took a shot on this HP Omen gaming laptop not too long ago and it is working out really well. I just feed the laptop’s USB into the Douk U2 Pro and S/PDIF we go to the Frost. I got the Omen on sale for like, 1100 bucks. I’m very happy with it.
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You should be able to lower the power limit of an AM5 CPU and get fairly negotiable difference in performance
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That was a very oddly done test. He makes no mention of what he used to cool the 7950X, what specific DDR5 kit was used even though his main test was Linpack, which as he states is very memory sensitive. There’s no mention of possible thermal throttling even though he tested at 275W, but said that 275W is un-coolable? He didn’t record clock speed at at each power limit. It almost feels like this was more of a proof of concept test than anything else. Which, yeah, of course you can lower the power limit or undervolt and get a majority of the performance. That’s been the case for quite a while with any CPU on the higher en of the power scale. But I feel like, given what I’ve learned about Zen4 so far, there should have been a little bit more scaling there beyond 200W. These CPUs are really good. Especially at properly multi-threaded tasks.
Did just see the Jay about the am5 mounting. Der Bauer did find out that the IHS is 2mm thick , no wonder that thing runs hot 
More reason for me to go for the 5000 series instead for now since those generate less heat and I think it’s safe to say that my Deepcool Assassin 3 is not going to be compatible with the AM5 CPUs, also even if it indeed is compatible with the AM5 chipset, I think it’s not going to be enough for my cooler to cool those 7000 series chips. It is what it is when things become more faster, powerful, effecient and more performance driven.
It should be fine, as long as you weren’t going for the 7950X. It wouldn’t be enough to cool that one, but it would probably be fine for the other three. Well, let me re-phrase that, it would definitely be fine for the 7600X and 7700X, and would probably even be fine for the 7900X. Though you might have to either undervolt it or set a manual power limit for that one.
Now, granted, any one of them would still ramp up to between 90-95C when under load, but that obviously wouldn’t be the fault of your cooler. As to whether it is compatible, did you have to use it’s own mounting plate on the back of your motherboard, or did you just use the backplate that came with the board? If you didn’t have to remove the stock backplate, then it should be compatible.
But honestly, staying on AM4 and getting a 5000-series CPU is probably the wise choice, all things considered. If you aren’t using your PC to make money, and/or don’t have some specific need for a feature that Zen4 brings, you might as well just grab a 5800X3D or 5900X once prices start dropping. Zen4 platform costs are brutal right now. The coming B660/E boards will help with that, at least to some extent, but there’s no telling if any of the “reasonably” priced boards will be worth looking at.
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