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So far thats still speculation as no official word from AMD has come down the pipeline and as little as 2 weeks ago, executives on interviews said it was coming this year.
I’ve also heard rumors that 4950x and 4900 are launching in september and the lower tiers are pushed to 2021

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Didn’t they do that with Zen 2? I think they are prioritizing workstations, because they make more money from that market. Demand for HEDP processors isn’t that big apparently.

EDIT: Well they did kind of. 36,37,38,3900(X) were launched on July 7th and the rest came later. I’m guessing they will be doing that again.

Yeah, i need a 16 core (video editing) so I have to wait for that to come out

If you need 16 cores…you probably could really use 32 or 64, tee hee hee! :wink:

edit - it also makes sense that Zen3 would be delayed due to the launch of the new Ryzen 3 and XT CPU’s. having them so close to when a new CPU come out was quite confusing to a lot of people.

I actually was considering a threadripper since I do VFX and work in animation. Their cost and the cost of their platform is too much

Then you don’t need the performance.

Edit: Cost vs Benefit wise

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if you need cores more than clock speed, look at a 2nd gen TR…they should be very affordable. sellers take a massive hit. my friend lost thousands when he went to sell his 1950X platform with water cooling hardware. it was vastly under powered by comparable Zen2 solutions with fewer cores because of the IPC gains Zen2 had over Zen (TR never had a Zen+ revision I don’t think?).

I wouldn’t be quite that harsh…there is a point for many where the price does not scale will the performance. this is more obvious when the user is a contractor.

on the side…an Epyc Rome platform with 2x 16 core CPU may be lower than a TR platform with a single 32 core CPU. it also gives you access to more RAM capacity and registered ECC.

TR is a workstation platform that happens to game aswell (extremely well since 3000-series).
When you need more PCIe lanes for storage or GPUs, then it make sense. Else there is AM4, which gives the same CPU power (to a point) without all the “extras”.

Epyc is for servers, completly different can of worms.

Well I’ll be working with 6-8k raw footage, color grading, davinci resolve, blender and Zbrush. & the increased ram capacity and rendering capacity is a plus. GPU encoding from Nvidia helps a lot for video but rendering 3d vfx can be expensive and core intensive process.
The goal, prior to covid fucking everything up was to build a self sufficient filmmaking computer as I am leaving the Mac Platform because of cost of the mac pro, legacy compatibility issues with archival footage because of the hard 32 bit cutoff with catalina and the company’s long term plans to switch their own Arm processors which puts program compatibility into question
I was thinking 3960x nothing more
but at the end of the day cost prevents me from building this more than anything. So I’ll be sticking with AM4 16 core for this reason

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Maze…I sell this stuff for a living. I make dual processor workstations all the time…Intel and Epyc. one of my more powerful systems was a dual 24 core / 48 thread Epyc from the first gen. Beastly!

Again, comparing server features (IPMI, Mezzanine slots, Fan-Failover, etc.) to workstations (acceptable noise levels, connectivity, local storage) in my opinion is apples to oranges.

Desktop to workstation platforms, I can kind of see.


I am a performance and tech whore myself. Voice of reason is just that a Gigabyte R282-Z93 is a SERVER first, beastly performance second.

Well, AMD has confirmed the XT series of processors existing

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It’ll be interesting seeing the benchmarks on those

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and PAB, you’ll be happy to know you were right…there will be Zen3 this year. Digitimes was incorrect.

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Intresting how it will play out with the coming XT line-up.

From what I figure, this is just specially binned versions of their regular chips they’re selling with a fancy logo to
A) crap on Intel (which they enjoy doing a lot)
B) Justify the price drop on the rest of the chips

No doubt that those are binned, but still it’s getting a bit crowded in the budget range. Maybe Zen 3 will be just priced higher than Zen 2 or they’ll drop the regular Zen 2 range for XT when Zen 3 launches, which doesn’t make sense imo.

Basically, the reg Zen 2 (excluding the 3300 and 3300x) have all dropped in price in the US

I think what they’re trying to do is a kind of marketing technique I see in the film industry, which is consciousness saturation. Basically good trailers and nice posters mean diddly squat to sales. Purchasing decisions for film goers are achieved by volume of advertising the audience absorbs. By basically releasing so much stuff that basically you cant turn a corner without hitting AMD they’re priming prospective customers to immediately associate CPU with AMD over Intel

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200MHz could be achieved by manual OC, so pretty meh I’d say.