Let's talk about headphone ergonomics!

what headphones would you say are the most comfortable you’ve ever worn?

what headband style do you think is best?

what ergonomic features / functions would you like to see on more headphones?

I haven’t worn enough to have much thought…but I can say the stock pads on the Senn HD599se suck. it took me months to get used to them and their clamp. felt so hard, unyielding. and the headband on the Porta Pros is shiiit. those headphones would be so much better if they spend an extra $5 on the headband, I’m sure of it!

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amateur…use pulley’s, not hooks.

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Most comfortable:
Beyerdynamic DT-series
Pads are nice (the grey ones), headband is nice, articulation of the cups is enough.

If only I liked the sound signature…

Second place would be my dads AKG K-400. They are light, the pads are this stiff, rough fabric. If only they had meaningful low end.


Padding
Headbands need to fit the weight of the headphone. PortaPro’s are fine without any padding, the HEDDphone needs all the padding it has (I assume, never had it on).

I like the flaps AudioTechnicas ATH-AD series has (and I also know some people do not have the head shape for them).
I wonder how that would work when the cups articulate up and down (like on the A550Z)


Ergonomic Feature
The one feature I realy like on my Panasonic RP-HD10’s is the option to shift the earcups backwards. Makes them fit my head just that bit better.

SHP9500s, happens to be extremely comfortable for me, next comes my nighthawk carbons, everything about this HP exudes ease of wear and comfort, no issues on long sessions at all. Last my newer Kennerton and older monoprice M560 with self adjustable headbands, these feel really good and fit just right on my head with never any heat or discomfort issues. YMMV…

Yes! I needed this topic. Finally a space where I can express my opinion :wink:
Comfort can make the best sounding headphone useless. If it isn’t comfortable, what’s the point?

First of all, you mention the HD599… which seems relatively similar to the HD598. HD598’s aren’t anything spectacular in terms of comfort - they disappear on my head. Now, it depends what you mean by comfort. If you want a cozy headphone/ear-pads, go to Dekoni Audio, however, if you want a headphone that you want to forget is on your head, Sennheiser’s do a very good job at that. This has to do with several factors such as: clamp force, ear-pad density, ear-pad firmness, etc.
For me the clamp force on the HD598 is nowhere near tight, but if you have a larger head, you can expect more force - my head is relatively small, so I never had this problem.

For example, the HD598 is my main gaming headphone and it has been so for several years now. The headband is rather stiff and hard, but my hair acts as a cushion and doesn’t personally bother me. The pads are extremely soft, and I am confused how your HD599’s were hard :thinking:

My Dekoni Blue’s are extremely cozy. A headphone that never truly dissolves and disappears form your head - you can always feel them, but do not get discomfort at any point.

I have to say that iBasso (both SR1 and SR2) have the best headband, especially considering their price. The headband is very wide and is made of real Italian leather (you can learn all about it here, it’s Tuscan vegetable-tanned leather: https://www.pellealvegetale.it/en/vegetable-tanned-leather/).
There is something about the width and the softness of it, no need for cushion or anything. This type of headband is much similar to the wide headbands from Audeze, except this one is made of real leather and smells like real leather. I am not saying Audeze isn’t using real leather, I just didn’t have the time to look into their headbands… However, do consider that iBasso SR2 is just 500 bucks and has that.

However, another amazing headband is the one of Ollo S4X. It uses a self retracting suspension system. The way this works is by having two straps of either sides - these straps are attached to the either side of the headband holders (basically they are screwed in place, this way the headband is attached to the headband system). These straps are made of leather, however, within them there is a piece of elastic - and this is where the “real” headband is stitched to. It may sound complicated because I cannot quite explain it (if someone can explain it better, some help will do :slight_smile:) - the headband is only stitched in one place, and that’s in the middle. Interestingly enough, this elastic is quite strong and it stays in place, I don’t need to adjust it. In fact, it is so strong that I can place it way below my ears (closer to my mouth) and it will not push back to its original place. This makes a very comfortable and accurate fit, it’s definitely something interesting… however, I don’t know how long the elastic will hold its strength overtime.

The best earpads are usually hybrids - thicker material like leather on the outside of the earpads, softer fabric material on the face of the earpads. Ears can get quite warm and sweaty if you are using leather/pleather on the facing side - they will also start sticking to your skin which makes things even worse.

I think this sums up my two cents. Conclusion:
Ear-pads:
If you want cozy ear-pads that won’t dissolve on your head - use ear-pads with memory foam, preferably hybrids (like Dekoni’s pads)
If you want ear-pads that won’t necessary isolate as much but will dissolve on your head - use soft velour pads (like Sennheiser’s)
If you want something in-between these two, you always have something like the Dekoni Elite Velour from Dekoni Audio - it is still velour, but it has memory foam “filling”.

Headbands:
The wider, the better :wink:
Cushining is fine too, it is more necessary if you have less hair because you will need some cushioning. If you have plenty of hair, then you have the unfair advantage of not giving a f*ck.

p.s. for a comfortable fit, it is crucial to both have the option of pivot (horizontal rotation) and tilt (vertical rotation). Everybody’s head is different, but most importantly, the ear-cups never sit at a 90˚ angle. Our head is “shallower” further back, so you will either need thicker cushioning further back, or you can just have the flexibility to rotate the ear-cups so they sit flush against the ears.

My first run HD6xx. Light, fits my head, pads are cozy but dont make me warm, big and open so no extra air pressure, never had isdue with their clamp even with glasses

Not big on HP’s but my HD660’s are as comfy as any i’ve lived with.

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Definetly the Sennheiser 6 Series…The T1.2 are very comfortable aswell and the thing that i used for years everyday allday when beeing on my PC was the Sennheiser Game One headset. That thing is super comfortable.

the only uncomfortable headphones I’ve worn are all Koss…the 75’s, the 30’s and the PP’s. excellent sound, horrible ergonomics, etc. some of my others took some time getting used to as the differences were big between brands, but they were all okay in the end.

Have you tried yaxis into he pps and 30i’s?

For me it’s definitely my TR-X00 PH. I’m using ZMF Ori hybrid pads and I twisted the headband to add some clamp. These are what @voja described as cozy. I always know I’m wearing them, but I’m never uncomfortable. The headband is not an issue for me because I have long hair and am rather tolerant of headbands (I’m fine with Grado leather headbands). If you want the most comfortable pads possible, get a set of ZMF hybrid pads. The vegan suede us SO nice and they are like pillows in my head. Thankfully the Ori hybrids also sound great with some attenuation rings.

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I have buy the Yaxis Alcantara for my modded Fostex Ebony Emu mod and works fine with the Dekoni rings on it.
Are very comfortable and a good Sound Signatur maybe a bit under from the Original Fostex Pads,but minim.