Looking for an upgrade to my HE-4XX

Yeah that is true, but for what you are looking for, you loose out on bass impact and some elevated treble over the 2c. You do get a tad more detail though, I just think you might prefer the bass of the 2c

No, somewhat different, but I think they are on a similar tier of performance

It would be a sidegrade imo, but if you are still bothered by the treble even after grabbing a liquid spark and e30 wit might be worthwhile imo

I’m also debating what upgrade path I should try after the 4XX. I’m wondering if I should skip the Sundara’s and just go to XX (or try a different brand). I really do like the sound from the 4XX.

I think if you wanted to go from the 4xx, the sundara is the most logical upgrade, or a he560v1, but that’s more picky on how you power it. The xx is an upgrade, but it is different from the presentation of the 4xx, the sundara would most likely be the more direct upgrade to the 4xx (if you are looking for a direct upgrade)

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So the XX has elevated Treble compared to the LCD-2C?

If you scroll up a bit to when I first recieved my XX you can see my raw impressions of it

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The edition xx actually has a bit less treble than most hifiman, but the lcd 2 classic has even less

I just looked at the power output of the schiit Asgard and it puts out 5W at 16 ohms??? WTF
Also How would the Schiit Hel compare to the E30 and Spark?

It’s a pretty beefy amp, I really like it, would be a great upgrade

You didn’t like the heresy correct? It would be like the heresy but imo not as good.

Just asking because I am trying to find a Combo that would be as good as the E30 and Spark, but I don’t want to spend $400 on the Asgard.

Grab an asgard 3 without a module and use your k3 as a dac?

I am buying the E30 and Spark right now.

So the E30 and spark should give me a Dark sound right? Whereas the E30 and Magni 3+ would give me a warm sound?

The e30 + spark should give you a warmer, smoother, and thicker sound. The e30 + 3+ would give you a bit more neutral but a bit smoother more energetic sound, but not as warm as the spark

Is the spacial recreation between the two different?

The spark would be a tad wider, where the 3+ would be a tad more precise and tighter, but both are pretty solid when it comes to recreating space

So I’ll still be able to hear were people are coming from in video games on the spark correct?

Yes, for sure


RIP more of my money, and all my RCA cables are in use with my Dynamic Driver headphone setup so I had to buy some more

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Quick tip, if you hit printscreen on your keyboard you can paste a screenshot right into your post.

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Oh, lol, I couldn’t figure out how to do it.