Looking for the best AMP + DAC for Focal Elex within $500

Dad has an old Pioneer turntable from the 70’s or 80’s that runs on some $600+ cartidge. The issue is no preamp (it connects to his also-vintage kenwood speaker setup) so maybe I need to find a good preamp.

I just started… and I’m already $1000 deep into what I’ve spent on my turntable, including the phono stage… lol

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Of course lol, I didn’t discuss that because I didn’t want to get into the which is better argument which we are now transitioning into lol

Yeah discussions made by me can really run off on tangents.

Just thought maybe the RNHP + Clear might sound really good listening to our Vinyl collection too.

Wait until you hear a really good system, suddenly that $1500+ cartridge seems like a deal and you start to see how deep the pit really goes.
I might spend $1500 on a CD transport for my stereo, I’d set aside closer to $5000 as a starting point if I ever decided vinyl was something I wanted to get back into.

Not to say you can’t have a good sounding system for much less than that.

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I’ve done vinyl rips on a friends insane turntable setup, was pretty nice

Just buy a phono preamp and listen directly, you’ll lose a huge amount digitizing it, with anything affordable.

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Yeah dad’s a real “ANALOGUE!!!” buff. He’ll never go digital, but I figured he’d enjoy at least hearing his music on a good modern AMP+Headphone.

Lol well yeah a good headphone and amp should be analog enough for him

We’ve literally had dozens of arguments about the pros/cons of analogue vs digital dozens upon dozens of times. My main argument is that analogue may sound better the first play but since it physically wears it’s basically never the same, plus you’re subject to potential imperfections in the manufacturing process etc and only the masters that the copies are made from is truly the real deal.

We also get into arguments about computer brains vs human brains, etc etc etc.

But he swears by it, I think he grew-up with it and enjoys it’s warmth, imperfections, hissing, and popping from wear be damned. And I figure that’s pretty respectable.

Vinyl is a pretty durable medium, IMO. I have some records printed in the 1960s I picked up the other day that sound great… especially after rinsing it under the sink. Lol

I’m sure… but I don’t mind being blissfully ignorant for the time being. Very happy with my current setup. lol. I will definitely be making small upgrades overtime, though.

That’s really the way to do it.
The first good vinyl system I ever heard was $5000+ For just the turntable/arm and cartridge in 1980’s money. Then I walked out of the shop with a Rega Planar 2, which I traded in a few weeks later for a Rega Planar 3 + RB300.
I used that for most of the time I seriously collected vinyl, and I really loved it, my change in income accompanied relocating to a new country and my at the time I decided I was done with vinyl.
My less than ideal listening situation, makes it easier to talk myself out of not getting back into it.

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Even as someone who tends to prefer digital, if I was infinitely rich I’d go full analogue with the best turntable+cartridge, amp, and headphones out there probably.

My real reasons for preferring digital are far more lodged in the realm of affordability and availability (yarr, mateys). But I’d drop that attitude if I was better off.

There’s something romantic about your music aging with you anyway.

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IDK, I feel like I am pretty high up now and the convenience of digital is just well convenient lol, if you get a really good dac it can sound super natural. I don’t think I can see myself getting a vinyl setup in the future tbh

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For me the value doesn’t out weigh the inconvenience factor, and starting over collecting, finding good quality vinyl of the stuff I want to listen to is getting challenging as well.
Plus I’m pretty much done with physical media at this point, it’s a pain to manage and store.

I can’t get as much music as I have now if I went to vinyl lol

well for right now I’ve been listening to music almost exclusively on vinyl, but I’m sure that will shift over time. We’ll see how things change once I finally get the Ares DAC.

Pro audio really starts to feel like a snakeoil cult sometimes, doesn’t it?

I just looked into preamps for a second. Schiit’s cheapest is the Saga, but JDS has the “OL Switcher”. Wonder if that’d be adequate.

You would need a phono preamp, not a stereo preamp