Fun fact: Just got home and my grandfather’s Fisher Xp6b no longer sound as good to me after hearing those Wharfedale, can’t believe the Fishers have a woofer double the size. Get where those 50 years that passed went in terms of speaker development XD. Weird I didn’t like the Q acoustics 3020 a single bit…
Some older speakers are just awesome, but it really depends on preference I would say. You def have a fair bit better technicalities with the wharfedale so perhaps that’s what you were looking for lol. In good condition I think you would be able to get like 200usd for the fishers, still somewhat desirable.
Regarding the q acoustics, it seems it just didn’t meet your preferences which is no issue, you just want to find your preferences is the goal, which the evos suit you better it would seem
Yeah… I guess sound is so subjective after all. I would say the fishers were designed with jazz in mind, cuz those saxos and femenine vocals are just stunningly awesome, no matter what, I’d even say more than the ones I heard on the whafedales. All other stuff sounded better on the Wharfs, Eric Clapton guitar was fuller and richer, pianos were nicer and bass was punchier and better articulated, soundstage was awesome and detail was incomparable, can’t wait to have them home
Yes, the fishers were designed with music of their age in mind, so that’s what they tend to preform best with imo
Well I think I’ve got an answer for the problem! I’ve just installed my new Wharfedale Evo 4.1, into which I completely fell in love at the store, and they are not as good in my room. They are definitely fuller than the Q Acoustics, and I really like their sound better, but there’s something about my room (or the whole poor construction of the flat I am now in Barcelona) that makes speakers ressonate in weird ways when playing pianos. So yeah it wasn’t all about those Q Acoustics, even then most natural and pleasing sounding speakers I could get are weird in my room… Lucky for me that I’m leaving this flat in a few months! XD
Well… just completely blown away by how much room acoustics change sound! The Wharfedales acquired some of the characteristics I hated about the Q Acoustics when I sat them in my room. Guess my room doesn’t like pianos, lucky I’m moving out in the near future. For the rest, they sound amazing anyway so it was a good buy
Have you worked on treating your room? What is your floor made of? Do you have large windows? Are your speakers in the corner? The room can affect the sound strongly, and treating it and practicing good speaker placement can really help. Since you are moving soon I wouldn’t worry about it too much, but when you move, you might want to invest some time (and money but it doesn’t have to be a lot) to improve your environment for 2 channel listening
Yeah… I have all those XD. A huge window (even though there’s a courtain on front) just behind where speakers are, wooden floor, one of em is in a corner, and they are 30cm away from a wall on top of
a cheap wooden panel I use as a desk hahaha. I don’t wanna invest in this room cuz it’s just my student place and I’m finishing my degree this year, I’ll take action when I move out and try to design my room thinking about speakers first. I’ve been watching and reading about speaker placement and room acoustics for a while but I’m completely lost really, I’ll try to contact a professional or something when I set up my future room!
You can do simple stuff, like get large thick window curtains or drapes, get a thick large rug for the ground, move your speakers out a bit so they have enough space behind the wall, have a bookshelf or couch in the room, make diy acoustic panels and cheaper bass traps
Ah ok gotcha. Well at least you have curtains so that’s good lol. And when you use them nearfield you can reduce the amount to where the room matters. For now I don’t think there is too much you can do, besides getting some isolation pads for the speakers to decouple them from the desk
Hahahah yeah that’s what I thought… well I just put some little “sorobothan?” feet that came with the speakers to kinda decouple them from the desk, but I was wondering if some good isolation pads would be a good upgrade.
You should be fine with that then, didn’t notice that lol. Have you tried different degrees of toeing in your speakers?
Yeah! I find that toeing them in creates a bit more congested sound and looses a bit of the soundstage I got remaining, maybe because I’m getting the left speaker facing the corner even more so it bloats the sound a bit? (That’s what I can kinda guess but it’s not a huge difference and now that I’m testing again I get different feelings each time XD… well and I think it also relaxes the treble a liittle bit, which I tend to prefer) Pianos and guitar strings sound ressonant both ways though.
Edit: toeing them in juust a little bit maybe helped a bit more than going all the way facing my ears, didn’t know it was so subtle
Yes, just do subtle adjustments to get them right. I would suggest putting a track in mono, and then toeing and repositioning the speakers until the sound is directly center
Yeah I’ll try that! Thanks a lot mate, I really appreciate it! Gotta go to class now hehe
Welcome to the lovely world of speakers and room acoustics.
Fun is just beginning. lol
The wonderful world of sacrificing the livability and usability of your room for speakers lol
Hahahaha I guess there’s no coming back XD
I like theWharfedale Evo 4.1 too, but I also like the Q Acoustics concept 20 which are priced the same. And unfortunately I can’t hear neither of them in my country so I have to pick my luck.
Can any one recommend me one over the other?