Completely concur! Since pairing the 1Z and Z1R… I feel like the journey has pretty much ended… (which is scary) lol
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No WiFi though?.. that’s a deal breaker for me as I stream all my tunes 
That was my biggest thing as well before grabbing it. I will tell you what I was told, and it held true… I didn’t believe it but even as a Bluetooth receiver, it sounded better than my other daps! 
Ah that’s right I forgot about that lol
I think the one where it edged the BT Receiver our was the Cayin N6ii … but I couldn’t deal with the. battery life for my module and once I tried the 1Z, I was hooked and got rid of the N6ii. Haven’t looked back . Head to head, the sound of the 1Z got the best of the Cayin but the N6ii wasa beast in its own right, for sure!
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So spending some time again as a dac only, the hugo 2 is probably getting sold tbh, the p6 has equal if not better standalone dac performance and drives iems better than the hugo, along with better fitting my preferences, so kinda a no brainier now lol. For headphones I’m probably going to keep the dx220 max as it’s really good for that, although I won’t get into it anymore since this isn’t the right thread lol. Still liking the p6 just as much as when I first got it, still excellent lol
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i’m surprised an R2R portable device even happened… because it seems like FPGAs would be easier to get a “ladder like” sound in smaller devices and that ladders would be too big and difficult to control (especially since they have a limit on the amount of bit depth they can do)
I mean that’s kinda what chord does, but an fpga dac and discrete ladder dac tend to sound a bit different. The p6 does have an fpga inside for digital signal processing and possibly r2r correction (but I’m not sure about the 2nd part). Ideally if you wanted r2r sound you would just grab an older burr brown or analog devices r2r chip based dac for a product of this size. But yes I’m pretty surprised they were able to make this thing work as well as it does
Wow!!! No Brainer!? That much of a difference than the Hugo2!? That’s crazy! Really speaks to the quality of the P6. How is the functionality with no touch screen? Is it pretty inconvenient or…
Slight learning curve but it’s intuitive enough, the main downside so far is the 512gb 12k track limits, but apparently those will be raised in the future. UI is quick enough and if you map the controls correctly you can navigate it fairly easily
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Ah okay! That makes total sense! So it’s not completely limited as it could appear. That’s really good then. I’d love to get a chance to hear that one!
Yeah really worth a listen, from memory the wm1z in comparison would be more rich tonally and also more impactful, but I might say the p6 is more neutral but still a bit warmer leaning, more detailed with better dynamics, and more spatially impressive, but with a z1r the synergy with the sony might be better, can’t say for sure since I don’t have a z1r on hand lol
Two vital questions: Does the P6 offer any sort of EQ and can it be used as a USB DAC? For my use case I need a great EQ option (preferably PEQ) and USB DAC mode, since I’d rather invest entirely into a flagship DAP that can also be my desktop DAC/Amp.
Sort of, and yes.
EQ you get 6 preset options (I haven’t really messed around with them tbh), but no custom eq yet, but since a new firmware update added a custom eq/dsp mode for a jvc iem there is a chance that could be enabled in the future, but I have no idea lol. I really have 0 need to use the eq though, but I know for some that’s prob a turn off
As a dac it’s excellent, you can line out of either the 4.4mm and 3.5mm, and as in some of my thoughts above, it’s surprising on what the dac alone as a line out can compete with imo. For mostly iem use this could easily be a desktop and portable setup imo (and it pushes most headphones pretty respectably imo although for mainly headphone use I might look for something else)
Oh okay, thanks for the info. I have the LCD-i4’s so an EQ is crucial. So it is only a line out when plugging into another source? Sounds like I would need an amp then which kind of defeats the purpose to me at least. Same issue with the Dethonray DTR1 to me, it has no EQ or USB DAC.
You can toggle the outputs between an amp for headphones and iems, or for a line out
As in like a desktop amp? To be clear this is a dap, so combined player/dac/amp. I’m just saying that you can use it as a dac only and output to a desktop amp if you like. You can also use it as a combined usb dac/amp
If you are looking for more totl, and want something with pretty great eq and dsp, I would really look into the lotoo paw gold touch, it has a ton of different dsp options that would be great for dialing in your lcdi4. I don’t have an i4 so I can’t really give you too much info on how it would pair with the p6 or the lpgt, but the lotoo might be a better pick here for eq (it also sounds really good as well)
Ah, I must have misunderstood you. Still, I would need adjustable EQ’s. I’m also looking for great power. I see that the new Kann Alpha is coming out with 12Vrms. I’m not aware of anything as strong, I believe the DX220 Max, R8, and M15 are all less powerful although I could be wrong. The LGPT is a bit weak looking in that regard, although it is a custom OS which is my preference.
Yes then something like the lotoo paw gold is more something to consider
I have a dx220 max and it can power whatever I through at it within reason, pretty great. Honestly for what you have, you don’t need that much power, you just need good current delivery and quality power, in that regard any of those players would serve you well imo (but I would at least try and be at or above 500mw @ 32 ohms just in case)
Yes, I would say 500mW into 32 ohms is a minimum. I have some time before I would be purchasing, so maybe EQ will be added through a firmware update. The Questyle QPM was a consideration until I saw the power numbers and price considering how little it seems to be different from the QP2R