šŸ”¶ Mangird TEA (6 BA/1DD)

I watched Danā€™s review on my Teas. The Aria sounded like garbage while the Mest was nuanced and delicate. The Teaā€™s Sonion BAs are high quality, donā€™t let the low price convince you otherwise.

Edit: ā€œgarbageā€ is entirely too harsh. But let me just say Iā€™m glad I didnā€™t let my curiosity get the best of me with that set.

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Watched with a different set of IEMs, but felt the exact same way.

EDIT: Reply is to post above. I could swear I press the specific reply button but it ends up being a general replyā€¦

This sums it all.

I could see myself owning only mangird tea and to not be missing much. Its one of those iems.

Could be left alone on island with teas and my dap, and ill be fine and happy.

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I will get a chance to hear the teas in a few weeks. I am replacing my H40s and considering them plus the Oxygens, Oracles or Variations. What would each potential upgrade bring? Thanks

Do you want a direct upgrade to the oh40 or a different taste?

Also, are you getting the teas plus a tribid or just one?

Thank you. But I have a question
What am I supposed to hear or not hear?

Yeah, honestly Iā€™m looking for an endgame thatā€™s within reasonable reach of my limited budget and from what I can see from all the graphs, reviews, and so on the Tea is a very strong contender, especially considering Iā€™ve only been using in ear earphones and I guess IEM(? with the Audiotechnica CKR50) which are in the 50$ range and jumping straight up to the $300 Mangird Tea.

I have no idea how much the music will improve with better gear like when I upgraded some of my music files to FLAC from 128kbps MP3

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It seems that the problems were partly due to the tips, the large ones seem to seal my ear and I hear more bass.
I thought the bass was determined by the width of the hole in the tip.

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Ah! Well the size of the center bore does affect bass, but nothing affects bass more than having a proper seal to start with. All alterations have to take place after youā€™ve got a good seal.

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Having a complete seal is mandatory. If you do not have a complete seal, nothing will sound correct. You HAVE to do your homework and find the appropriate tips that work for you. They should give you a complete seal easily and be comfortable. If youā€™re having trouble getting a proper seal, I highly recommend investing in some Spinfit tips.

Bore size and tips overall do have an effect on sound, but nothing will matter if you canā€™t achieve a complete and proper seal to begin with.

In addition, no 1 size tip fits 100% of the time with all IEMs. IEMs have different insertion depths and different angles for how the nozzle enters your ear. Some are vented and some are not. This all adds up to each individual IEM should be treated individually with your ears/fit. Every IEM listener should look at each IEM they own as needing to treat it special and work at tip rolling all the tips you can try on it to attain the best comfort, seal and sound for that IEM and your preferences.

No offense, but I am always amazed at how many people do not even understand how IEMs should completely seal in their ear. There is no guessing. You either know if you have a proper seal or you donā€™t.

If anyone out there really does not know, or wants to ask questions about fit, comfort and seal, I am more than happy to help educate. Just ask!

You beat me to it. Well said.

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Iā€™m not surprised, you added in a lot more helpful information :+1:

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The problem was that I was using the small silicone tip (the stock one) and I was putting the iem in and it was getting to a point where it was sticking in my ear. I noticed a certain feeling of extra comfort because the tip might be too small to make a good seal.

Iā€™ll use the big silicone ones that seem to seal if they donā€™t, I donā€™t know what will.
The memory Foam ones seem to me too big for long listening and also that they degrade and get dirty very easily.

I gave you an answerā€¦foamā€™s suckā€¦sort ya self a few solid siliconā€™s as reckoned and job doneā€¦ :man_shrugging:

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Again, I canā€™t help anyone if you do not understand what a complete seal is/feels like/sounds like. You have to figure this out on your own. I can try to get you there though, but this is #1 essential to everything. Nothing else matters if you donā€™t start off with a good seal.

Just sticking in your ear and actually sealing are two completely different things.

It should feel somewhat uncomfortable to have a proper seal in your ears. THIS IS NECESSARY!!! You cannot stick little ear tips into your ears that do not seal and expect the IEM to sound good because it feels comfortable to not have your ears stuffed and closed off.

An analogy to that might be expecting a shot to work but you donā€™t like the needle piercing your skin. You have to pierce the skin to get the medicine into your body and it feels uncomfortable. Itā€™s the same thing with IEMs. The IEM has to go into your ear and the tip has to seal all air flow, or else the IEM will never perform as intended.

These are the bare basics.

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Another really good test for tip fitment is to try talking, then plugs your ears and talk (for the love of god if you are using your fingers wash you hands and trim your nails first). You should hear a stark difference in how you sound to yourself.

Even if you have one of the most vented IEMs in the world you should not hear yourself the same as when you have unplugged ears. Though it might be different then fully plugged ones depending on the IEM, but it should still be closer to plugged.

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Since not all of us understand that a complete air tight seal is 100% essential to enjoying IEMs, Iā€™ll add a few suggestions here. Unfortunately, there isnā€™t a lot of information out there that explains a lot of this since everyone is different, but hopefully some of this is helpful.

Buy a lot of different tips and different tip sizes. As an example, here are pics of just some of mineā€¦



Tip roll! Go nuts. Experiment and find the right tips that work for you. Ask around and see what work well for others. (the default basic tips that usually come with IEMs usually never work for me).

One size does not fit all. Just because one tip or one tip size fits and seals with one IEM does not mean that tip will work on another IEM. IEMs are different, have different insertion depths and angles and may require a different tip, or different tip size to be ideal for you. Some IEMs may sound better with a different type material or nozzle size. Experiment and find out what works best for you. Tip roll people!

When inserting your IEMs, take your time. You can open/straighten your ear canal by reaching over your head with one hand, grab the top portion of your ear and gently pull up on your ear. Then slowly insert the IEM and tip into your ear canal. Once seated, you can slowly release your ear and feel the ear canal close in over top of the tip and hopefully create a perfect seal.

Moistening the tip as well as your inner ear might help to ensure a proper fit. Just donā€™t let water get into the IEM or down the tip nozzle.

Donā€™t use foam tips.

Clean your ears with some hydrogen peroxide from time to time. (I probably do this too often)

Ensure you have a proper seal before playing music by listening to the environment after youā€™ve inserted both IEMs. It should be difficult to hear anything. When you know you have a great seal, try snapping your fingers and learn how snapping your fingers sounds when your IEMs are sealing off your ears. Understand the difference.

Both ears should feel the same. You shouldnā€™t be able to hear the room sound louder in one ear than the other. Both ears should both be equally closed off to any outside sound.

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Well I was trying to pin it down to one I will keep the 40 most likely and intend to get Mele. I like a little leaner more neutral sound. It can lean to slightly warm. I like good technicals as I enjoy imaging and sound staging. I want solid bottom as that found in live music but I am not a bass head. Feel free to ask any other questions. I bought the 40 on one review and though I do not dislike it,I do not want to repeat that method. Knowledge is power and thanks so much for inquiring.

Little more general advice, donā€™t assume the same size tip you wear for one IEM is always the right size. Example: I use Final Type E tips in a large size for most regular insertion IEMs, but for bullet style deep insertion mediums seal a lot better.
Nozzle length, insertion angle, and even the width of the nozzle might require a different size tip or different tip to make a proper seal.

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There must have been some problem with the English translation, I didnā€™t say exactly that.

Letā€™s see, what I said was that Iā€™ve been using the small tips for convenience, I didnā€™t think the seal was that important.
The small stock tips that come with the Mangird tea fit easily into my ear canal until they couldnā€™t fit anymore. Maybe that was the problem, it was too easy to get in. Just check with the Mangird tea owners that the silicone tips of the small size Mangird teas are very small.

However, I get a much bigger seal with the large size silicone tips of a Spring 2 (the atmosphere type, if you have a Spring you will know that).

I will try the spinfit tips one day but I wonā€™t try the memory foam tips because of their excessive size, fast degradation and dirt.

I hope everything is well translated.

And thanks for the advices

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I am an owner The Mangird Tea is my #1 rec at the $300-$500 range.