šŸ”· Monolith Liquid Platinum

I sold my lcd-3 pre fazor before I had the chance to listen to it on the mlp but I think itā€™d be a pretty sweet pairing as well (especially with smoother tubes) based on what Iā€™ve heard from both separately. Those are the only two Audezeā€™s Iā€™ve heardā€¦ so far :eyes:

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I was wondering if that would be a good combo because I like a warmer signature - the hexv2ā€™s sound superb to me and I would like to try another big planar.

2pf and 3pf would be pretty easy recommendations for you then. Both are fantastic however they do have different characteristics.

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Just a quick follow up on the Capacitor mod tht I posted about a few posts upā€¦

So I listened to the MLP for a solid 3 hours this morning, listening criticallyā€¦there is absolutely a difference with the elna silmic II caps. The most noticeable differences are added clarity and extension in the treble, more linear mid range, and an improvement in soundstage widthā€¦

Unfortunately, I didnā€™t notice until listening critically today that some of the bass quantity has been lowered and some of the texture as wellā€¦

I read every single page of the MLP thread on Head-Fi, determined to see if anybody else experienced thisā€¦

Low and behold, one guy suggested replacing the cap closest to the balanced output from the Elna Silmic II to a Nichicon UKZ or Nichicon Gold cap of the same value. Well, I have a shoe box full of Nichicon Gold caps. So I did that around 10 am this morning and let them burn-inā€¦

Just listened now and the bass quantity and texture did return, while maintaining the rest of the improvements of the Elna Silmic II caps. It is literally perfect now. So I highly recommend that slight change to the modification if anybody is interested in doing the cap mod.

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Yeah I did the reading getting the same caps with the exception of the cap closest to the balanced output. Thatā€™s why I asked you the other day. Heard the same thing over on Head-Fi.

Should have mine completed by tomorrow. Looking forward to the weekendā€™s listening. Hoping I have the same results as you!

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Itā€™s funny but I thought that guy was full of shitā€¦not so much, lol.

Good luck with your mods. :slightly_smiling_face:

Could anyone do a quick and dirty comparison of this to a Drop CTH for me? I ask, because I just picked up a cheap used CTH to try the tube / hybrid thing out, and I am digging it. Iā€™ve had my eye on the MLP for a bit, and now I am considering a bit more. Any impressions would be appreciated. The main headphones I currently have to use with it are LCD2 PF and the Senn 560s. It will be fed by a Liquid Spark DAC. Thanks.

Listening time of about 4 hours so far after the upgrade is that there is a little more sound stage, definitely more ā€œairā€ and an overall sense of improved balance between the bass, mids and highs with the top end being the most noticeable. Itā€™s not a night and day difference but enough that itā€™s clearly tangible, no guessing or placebo involved. There is more immediacy and speed in the low range, but the low end of the LP wasnā€™t lacking in the first place the additional speed just tightened it up. The low end BTW took a little longer to develop.

Definitely a worthwhile mod if youā€™ve got a LP laying around. For $30 bucks worth of parts and an hour of labor it does raise the performance floor of this thing.

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My favorite combo is LCD2pf and MLPā€¦ Magical to me for sureā€¦

Anyone have the Liquid Platinum and the Topping A90 amp? I have both and it seems to me the LP slightly edges it out in my preference. I know the LP is a tube amp and the A90 is solid state. But the LP is a very dry amp and it just sounds better to me. I mean it is a much higher price point than the A90

I donā€™t have an A90. Iā€™ll tag @M0N so he can comment when he gets a moment. I agree that the MLP is a dry amp, though. The tubes tune its sound more than they deternine it. The price of the MLP bounces all over, though. Itā€™s back up to its original msrp of $799 as of 11 Dec, 2020, but was $293 for a morning in mid-Nov, $399 the rest of November and earlier December, and $480-520 pretty much the rest of 2020. Iā€™m sure it will come back down soon. IMO that means it should be considered as basically the same price point as A90. Either way, MLP is a great sounding amp and my current favoriteā€¦until I can move up price tiers anyway.

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I would agree in terms of price that the liquid plat can basically be had for similar if not lower price than the a90 fairly often now, and I would also agree that I think the plat is the more capable amplifier when you compare the a90 to it. Regarding the tubes, you can get a bit sweeter sound to the liquid plat with different tubes, but it wont be drastic as @WaveTheory notes

Also the liquid plat is a hybrid amp, not a tube amp, itā€™s tubes are only on the input stage and not actually driving the headphone, so it ends up still being a pretty fair comparison imo

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yeah i got a RNHP and a DV also and the LP is the best sounding amp i got. has more depth and detail than my others

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Have you gone down the tube-rolling rabbit hole yet or are you running the stock tubes?

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Man i have bought like 7 different pairs of tubes for the LP. I feel like it leans towards bright like a Magni 3. I keep trying to darken it but damned if i can find anything. i made it even brighter with some chinese tubes. but dark evades me. I got a pair of Sylvania in it but its not made much of a change to me. i dont get it

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:thinking: Did you find the stock Electro-Harmonix tubes bright? Those are warm, smooth, and relaxed to my ear. Some tubes - Genalex Gold Lions come to mind immediately - definitely get bright to the point of glare on many headphones. Iā€™m just a touch treble sensitive and have found Amperex PQ Gold Pin 6922/E88CC to suit my ears best so far, but I got really lucky finding those as they are getting quite scarce. I have a pair of Tesla-branded-Siemens-made coming in soon to try too.

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I heard the Siemens are more neutral. I got some Russian reflector tubes coming. hoping that will help to darken it. Anyone got any recommendations? what about Telefunken or Sofia?

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To me the siemens are more neutral but they are also a bit warmer and full bodied leaning, but still reasonably neutral, I have the 6922 a frame and it works really well imo

Whats a 6922 a frame?

Siemens 6922 a frame tubes

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