Need Suggestions:Entry Level Setup

Another headphones worth considering is the Sennheiser 560s which is also gotten good reviews for competitive gaming, Falenkor mentioned it in comparison with the 38x. It’s easier to drive if you have issue finding a dac/amp for the DT880s. I havn’t tested it either but it’s well regarded.

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Sorry, I’m not a Beyerdynamic guy. Have tested a few – not the DT 880 600 ohm – and didn’t like the crispy treble.

You will need a meaty amp to drive a 600-ohm can. Don’t scrimp on power in favor of portability, no matter what you get.

provided you can tolerate its brightness… yeah its fine

yep, do be sure to confirm this though just incase.

Usually better, depends on the hardware being compared of course… Like motu M2 is actually quite nice I found out for an interface compared to a cheaper dac.

lol, it is a hobby after all. Granted I will be cleaning a lot of it out soon enough.

I own the 560s and its on my wall as a very good sennheiser… can attest to its capabilities and a very solid alternative to beyers more so for those who feel beyers are just too bright or the tygr 300r didnt work for them personally.

quite a lot seem to underestimate just how much power you need let alone good hardware. Those combo units just don’t cut it most of the time

I personally love that fact, but I can respect that its not for everyone.

Would Schiit Magni be enough ?

Will have a look at m2 .Another interface that I am looking into is the Arturia MiniFuse 1/2.let’s see which I ultimately end up with.

Would there be any issue if I end up paring for instance Motu m2 with magni .Is there any compatibility issue that I need to be wary of.

Don’t know if I will like but let’s see .

We are the approaching the finale now.
I have shortlisted few audio interfaces and have confirmed from dealers their avalibility.
So here is my final list :

  1. Motu m2

  2. Audient id4 mkii
    Company says it’s capable of driving 600ohm headphones .If anyone has knowledge of this claim then please share .

  3. Arturia MiniFuse 1

Look at M0Ns reply here:

Those you listed are all more production and recording type of devices? Have you read anything about their sound quality? I would think the priority in these devices would be having great input/mic quality over soundquality for the output/headphones. I think Schiit Hel or Mayflower Arc is your best bet, where the mayflower has line out, so you could pair it with another amp later on.

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most of the general entry levels have enough power $100+

an interface? don’t rely on interface for amp power, just get an amp…

keep in mind, this will only serve as the Dac and Mic input requirement in the setup… not the power to the headphone.

^. I only said interface would be acceptable due to the needed mic input atm.

he could theoretically just grab a G6 and get an amp later for it provided this is exclusively pc though I am unsure if it will connect to his other devices. It can technically power the 600 ohm beyers once you set it all up in the software ot push 600 ohm. It has a decent dac though im not sure if you can still use its mic input when you change the amp to a dedicated unit… same with the others. Combo units lack in power in comparison… and things get more restrictive needing a mic input.

I did see couple of videos about the listed interfaces and thought they might work good alongside schiit magni amp.
See this chart below :

Below are Mk2 specs:

Mayflower is not available in my country and I was told by a distributor here that all Schiit products are out of stock and might take time to be back .

Yes sir.

This is what I was thinking of using it as along with a separate amp

Yes I want to use it with my iPad as well.couldn’t find any info about someone using with it.

I am an trying to find a dac with optical connection would like it to be balance i found the jds labs Atom DAC+ usb & optical combine with jds labs atom amp headphone amp thanks

Confused, are you searching for help for a different topic/setup? Please create a respective thread for that and not derail another persons topic if this is the case. Also, JDS atoms are not balanced amps and dacs, they are not capable of such setup

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all this talk of the soundblaster made me remember that there’s another line other than the g series that could fit the bill. the ae series has an internal card and an external amp and interface and could get it all done in one. the highest tier one, the ae-9, looks to have some pretty nice specs like super low noise level, 48v phantom power for the mic, surround sound with active speakers, and I would assume if the g6 can do 600 ohm beyers, the ae-9 can and it even has a 3 way gain switch on it for IEMs, normal, and high impedance. there’s refurbished ones under $300 from
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1500556?gclid=CjwKCAiA5t-OBhByEiwAhR-hm62uSFuDffuVNgVwH8672DhFBVbOjZTs3c54V74-JLjxuWQeTUJSGxoCcjcQAvD_BwE

could be a convenient little package, @Falenkor you ever heard any of these?

he needs this setup for his ipod too though. an internal chip is not going to get the job done for him

had quite a bad experience on a lot of the internals mainly in the form of bad distortion… ae 9 is alright… there is better ones out there though… its been a while since I sat with those kinds of hardware

What did you end up buying? I came over a used Creative Labs Sound Blaster X7 which might have what you’re looking for. You might get a good deal on one used. I think they’re decent enough and should have plenty of power to drive the 600ohm headpones. I have no idea about sound quality, but I think it’s ok.

Sorry about late reply ,I had covid and took a lot to recover from it.I felt I needed to reply to all of you for helping me with my request and also for other people who can use this info as a reference .

I have ordered below setup.
hd560s (210 AUD)
Motu m4
Asgard 3

Couldn’t find dt880 600ohm anywhere so I had to compromise .

Is my choice correct? I do have 21 days to test out the headphones and if not then I can return them.
Another cans that I had my eye on was the dt900 pro x .let me know if you want me try on those as well.

You made a very good call on the HD 560s. Very neutral other than a slight treble peak. Excellent headphones for the money.

Best wishes for a continued recovery from COVID.

Is your choice correct? Well ask yourself do they work for you. Is there anything you find maybe can be improved. Take time to sit with them and listen… play games see if the specs needed are on point for you. We all hear differently so your experience will be your own in most cases. 560s are damn good though for the money as a gamer

It wont hurt to test out the others mentioned if possible but i wouldnt stress bout that too much

@pk500: Lets see if they get the job done. Will test them in Apex and Valorant.
Thanks for the wishes.I am almost back to my best.

@Falenkor : That is true. Will think of testing DT900X as well to see how it fares against the neutral HD560s.I have heard conflicting reviews from people about them. Some have preferred one over the other.
Personally, which one do you prefer?

Hard choice. I like the overall tonality to the 900 but when i need good separation its not too great… 560 isnt perfect buts its a jack of all trades… it doesnt really perform poorly. Id take the 900 tho based on personal preference due to comfort less i can get some thicker pads on 560s… the 560s pads wear down quite quick and are much thinner than 900. If were talking ampless though thats 900 handsdown

I will be definitely using amp with my cans. What pads do you recommend for HD560s?
I am interested to know if there are pads that would enhance them in gaming.