Neutral sounding upgrade to SU8

What would you consider a upgrade to the SU8? I want a neutral sounding DAC.

What price range are you looking in?

below 600$

Hmmmm, I think perhaps while it isn’t the most neutral out there, the bifrost 2 is a great value imo, you might be able to find them used near that. Figuring you want balanced. The soekris 1321 is also something you might be able to find

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hmm. what about delta sigma?

DX7 is the only Delta Sigma I’ve seen that I would consider. I still recommend ladder DACs… they’re so awesome.

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I would personally again recommend the step up to multibit/r2r for a significant upgrade, as imo to get a significantly better sounding sigma delta dac you would want to spend more than that

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The topping d70 is pretty solid if you are looking for that

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Only Delta Sigma in the sub $600 I want to check out hasn’t be something that isn’t available right now. https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38966

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How about you make a new thread and I’ll move this over here so we don’t hijack this thread lol

EDIT: Moved

Very curious how it will preform, seems pretty nice

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Does it matter with the RNHP what input i use? RCA vs XLR?

sure why not? lol

XLR is preferred, but at the moment I am using rca with it and it’s just fine

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I don’t have balanced cables for my RNHP yet.

So… totally waiting for Schiit to update the Gungnir S/D with 4499 to compete with the monoprice. And with new Schiit products knocking it out of the park, I got a feeling I’m going to enjoy what’s coming.

Ok so i got:

Schiit Bifrost 2 for 700$ used for probably 450$ has XLR
Schiit Bifrost 1 used for 200$
Soekris 1321 for 450$ new dont see one used anywhere
Artist R2R for 300$ used

I dont see a XLR connection on the Soekris 1321. theres xlr on the 1541 but its 1300$ I coud get a Bifrost 1 for very cheap 200$ used

Yes it’s single ended only

The bifrost 2 tend to go used for around 550 I think

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What about a Bifrost 1? i see a lot of gen 5’s on ebay

That’s also single ended only if that bothers you, it’s pretty nice but not as impressive as the 2 imo

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I dont really care about XLR. So you think the Bifrost 2 sounds the best? Would a Bifrost 1 beat a SU8?