I mean considering they are considered slightly worse 660’s I would say they are mid range . they just don’t seem to be for people who have expensive headphones already.people still quantify sound quality mid -fi , summit, fi and entry level not based on how the thing actuially sounds instead by the price.
the whats the best headphone you own, yogi?
Yeah, I have both the 660s and the 58x, and while I use the 660s more, I still do like my 58x (but I think it might be a bit redundant at the point since they are pretty similar signatures lol)
At this point I feel like people would say the Shangri la is the best headphones I own (but personally I can’t pick an absolute favorite)
sorry i was talking to riceguru lol i was calling him yogi cause he called me boo boo lol
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My bad. Just curious, what would you say is your best for you atm
got the m570’s on the way so according to you that one? like at hand right now I got the 990, 58x, and 4xx. I’m a budget-oriented person and try expensive headphones pretty often and compare them with my own.
my Elex and my sendy aiva’s. the koss 95x is awesome too. but i want more. I would like to get some better headphones. unfortunately they are gonna be expensive.
The ZMF, LCD and Mr speakers lines are interesting, but i always hear the word “warm” to define their sound, and it worries me. I hated the Neumanns NDH20 you know
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for me depends on the genre, recording quality, what I want, where I’m listening from, what source I’m doing , what I’m doing what my current environment is like… lots of factors
From what you seem to enjoy, the l700 or focal clear seem up your alley
You i dont understand Mon. you got like 20 headphones worth 1000’s of dollars, why bother with the 58x?
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Are you sure ZMF and LCD has nothing for me?
like I would never put in the aeroplane over the sea on any headphone that is very resolving espcially in the highs but put it on on a laid back headphone like the 58x or the k240.
I just enjoy it all. It’s not all about price. There’s some enjoyment to be had with some of those headphones. If I like something I’m not going to ignore it because I have something “better”
I didn’t say that. I can’t speak for ZMF yet (my pair is on the way and it will be my first time hearing a zmf), but going off of others it seems like something you might enjoy. The audeze line depends on what model you go with. I like audeze headphones for sure
Really appreciating these different perspectives. I haven’t yet opened the headphones I have on hand, kind of wary of Drop’s “like new” requirement for returns. Also, I haven’t yet ordered an amp and figure if I listen to the 4xx without an amp it wouldn’t be giving the headphones a fair shake as they need more juice to sound right.
I have been watching the liquidspark on amazon to see if it gets a decent deal for Black Friday. So it may be a few more days before I get an amp in. At this point it doesn’t sound like I have a bad pair of headphones here. I may gift one pair to my brother if I don’t enjoy one. At least with the price I got these at I will have extra money toward an ultrawide monitor.
I’ve added the m570 to the watch list on amazon and if a stellar deal comes out I may pick them up as well.
Also, does drop always ship their headphones with such little protection? This box came with just a shipping bag surrounding it with several holes.
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Yeah the shipping is normal, they are fairly well packaged in the inside. The liquid spark is a great amp to pair with the 4xx and 58x imo
I use the LS and will power both with Ease with a lot of power and oomph
Also nice keycaps and pc, matches really well 
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you might want to keep an eye on the monoprice website too. they have a lot of sales as well as open box deals. let us know what you think about them if you ever get them. especially in comparison to the 4xx and 58x