So I’m looking to get a pair of open backs under $200. Currently using HD58X and I feel like I want to try some planars and a wider sound stage sound. Maybe I’m weird but the HD58X vocals feel a bit too close to my head? Thats how i would describe it.
the 4xx is better than the m560. while it does have a wider soundstage it present vocals very vlose but not as close as the 58x. just due to distance from your ears to the driver. so the orange is how far thing can sound but also how close sounds sound in relation to your ears.
here is the best way to describe is by visualizing what I mean
I know the 4XX - I have one. Easy to drive from a DAP. It’s not an audiophile can, it’s on the “fun” side. It doesn’t have a lot of lower bass. It has extra mid-bass and upper-bass that passes as bass for most. I use it as my mobile can - hikes, working in the garden - that sort of thing. It’s pretty rugged. I find sometimes the treble can be a bit aggressive. I’ve tried mods that didn’t work so much: SE -> XLR, different cable. I found mods that did work: Dynamat on the inside edge of the outward facing part of the can under the screen (tames down a lot of vibrations in bass, but also bass is lower in the mix (good for me). I also found taking off the rear screen and changing pads added width and depth, but not a big amount, a decent amount. I used MrSpeakers Ether Angled which are pricey, someone might suggest a cheaper alternate if you like.
If you go used you might be able to find a Sundara for not much over $200, which is better IMO.
Something to note though is that the sundara is a more intimate headphone while the 4xx is somewhat wider sounding (as Ai_Ai seems to be looking for something on the wider side of things). But otherwise I think the sundara is more impressive technicality wise with a more bright neutral signature
in the biudget beyer dynamic line they are the most neutral. but very fun detailed headphones. they really dont miss out much thit has decent bass, sort of recessed mids but not tooofar and brighter more detailed highs.since you haqve the 58x, the 880 has a wider soundstage and slightly better imaging. the mids are more pulled back in favor ofor a bit more midbass and more detailed accentuated treble. but not to the point where sibilance should be an issue but might still be an issue if you are treble sensitive.
to be honest the m560 was probably the worst purchase i ever made. returned them in less than 12 hours. the clamp was insane and the quality was not.
i would literally rather have this m560 than the monolith. there is a lot of love for the monolith so i know im the odd one out, but that is just my opinion.
Nah, the m560 really wasn’t well received, and neither was the m1060 after the hype died down. People just kinda don’t like to acknowledge they got caught up in the hype and made a poor purchase lol. The m570 and m1570 are actually worth their salt imo and aren’t a bad choice imo. The old monoprice is not that great tho as you say