Should i buy a $500 IEM as my first IEM?

…yeah i didn’t want to believe Crin bc I usually disagree with his tuning tastes but he’s got this one on lock.

I’ve had the mammoths for about a week now, and then the FD3s showed up. Comparing them back to back is rough. The Mammoths sound almost broken, like there’s a BA driver gone dead in there.

Honestly makes me want the honeydew or satsuma though. This sound signature at $550? A bad deal. This sound signature at $150? Sounds fun!

FD3s are too new for to judge really in their own right but they’re bangers so far. The sound tubes really change the treble experience but so far as i can tell mostly leave the bass alone, which is a very cool trick. Tips don’t seem to make much difference tho.

Edit: also for what it’s worth I have the regular cable for the FD3. I opted for the non-pro mostly because I hate 1.2m cables (too short for desk use, and i use TWS adapters on the go) so I wouldn’t use it anyway.

I got quite a bit of difference tip rolling the FD3, but I do agree that the wide bore nozzle ( treble, black o-ring) does not seem to change the bass. I am currently using the treble nozzle and a wide bore tip Azla Sedna crystal.

Interesting, :thinking: I’ve landed on the"balanced" but I’ll have to give the other tips another go. Maybe I just had a bad seal

I went treble, because the treble is fun if not refined and I felt it needed the extra push to counter the heavy bass. But this is just my personal preference.

Sorry about the Mammoth. All I can suggest is to have a few conversations with some of us before making purchase mistakes in the future. I would have steered you far away from the Mammoth.

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I’m not too worried, I knew folks were kinda down on them and I knew they had a weird FR, so I always figured this may not work out.
I’m still inside the return window with CA so I’m just going to send them back. Easy come easy go ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Awesome! If you want some good suggestions for your price point, there are more than enough of us here, happy to help. Good luck with your return.

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Will do, appreciate it! Honestly i’m pretty new to the IEM thing. For whatever reason I tend to experiment more with IEMs that have non-neutral tuning or weirder FR (thus the Mammoths). But suffice to say a lot of my stuff ends up on eBay after a couple weeks.

What i’m really looking for is an in ear Focal Clear/Elex, but it doesn’t seem like there’s much on the horizon with that forward of a vocal range, that well defined bass, and the kind of clarity and resolution those have.

Based on the FR and what a few folks have said about the mids I’m gonna borrow a set of Dunu Zen’s form a friend and see what’s up with those but again… I have my doubts. And as Rikudou_Goku pointed out in another thread, it’s kinda new IEM season about now so maybe someone will drop what im looking for in the coming weeks/months.

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So, here i am with my IEM Journey holez ended up with moondrop variations with moondrop bort cable ,pair with DAP Shanling M6 version 2021.

I thought this is my end game (there is no end game). Only yourself who can control where its gonna end.

Various with stock cable , it’s good. I’m impressed with the clarity & the micro detail. Then i change the cable to moondrop bort, and it makes Variations more open and crystal clear. But i lost something in here : MID BASS. The low sector like a boomy bass thing, i missed it Which i assume, Variations is SUB BASS oriented.

Then here we go again, I’m going to search for iem that have technicality like Variations and can fill my lost about the thumping Bass.

If i go to something like Fiio FD5 or others with mid bass oriented, i afraid to loose the pure bliss details & vocals from Variations. So here i am in rabbit hole, searching for something doesn’t exist. PERFECTION WITH MY TASTE. :joy:

Any advice or suggestions, please? I don’t know why i feel desperate with this :joy:

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This is where music pref becomes critical.
Variations has great tuning for some genre ( I imagine ) but for rock and R&B it is audibly weak

Xenns UP may have too much mid bass for you but Clairvoyance would be giving you that midbass

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Chris’ video sums it up, but gonna throw a wildcard here and say Tansio Mirai Land (120 setting), if you can handle some energetic treble and like mid bass.

All depends on library tho. Chris hated it, I love it.

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Thank you !

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Throw the wild card :money_mouth_face: yes, the music library, my library full of EDM, vocal deep house, progressive house, vocal edm etc. Which is force me to spend another bucks to find this “perfect” iem. Because i don’t want to trade or sell my Variations. Feels like this Variations tuning is too good to be true even i miss the mid bass. Idk, I’m crazy. Music preference is very important, and this Variations makes a dilemma for me. My ears that needs the “burn in” state not the iem

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Another option is to save some money, go straight mest mk2

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Like @nymz mentioned. Keep Variation…save for MEST MKII and stop throwing money at wildcards…unless you like that :call_me_hand:

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Perhaps you can try some tips rolling for your variations
I found that radius deep mount tip matches with this iem and suit my taste

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Im assuming he tip rolled… Right?!

Thank you, but name it, every eartips you can found. Already did. And the stock silicone eartips from Variations is the best for me from the sound perspective. For the fitting, azla sedna crystal is very good. Azla xelastec is too short. Radius deepmount is good too, but it holds some clarity. Azla sedna light is good too. And acoustone AET07 good enough but make the bass weight more thin. Jvc spiral dot++ the fit is excellent, like the sedna crystal. But idk, in my ears, all those eartips just hold and made some details blurry and missing. I’m surprised the stock eartips Variations sounds very good.

Unique Melody Mest Mk2 is a detail monster from what I’ve read

So where does Thieaudio Monarch and S8 fit in the picture with variations and Mest Mk2?