đŸ”¶ Sivga Phoenix

Took me awhile but I finally figured out how to twist the pads off
 In case anyone is interested:

  1. Twist the headband so the desired pad is facing you
  2. Plop that cup onto a surface with good grip, grill facing down (I used the side of my thigh for this)
  3. Grab both the thickest side and the thinnest side of the pad with your index and fat finger of both hands
  4. Apply downward pressure onto the surface, just enough pressure to keep the cup in place, while simultaneously twisting the pads clockwise

Use a firm grip and twist like you mean it and the bad boy should come right off! Time to pad swap!

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Just to clarify, your instructions outline how to remove the adapter plate. Not the pad itself.

Yeah. If you want to take the pad off, you’d just need to rip that bad boy off! lol

It’s glued so I guess with a hair dryer you could theoretically take it off w/o damaging it, but then you’d have to glue it back on with some krazy glue or something
 or perhaps you could wrap the pad lips around the lips of the ear cup? I don’t want to try
 I took the clips off and now I can’t put em back in so I’m using Dekoni pads until Sivga releases their new pads


Phoenix pad on left. P-II pad on right.

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Are they good? Does Sivga even sell pads?

Need more time to think about it. Yes they sell pads separately on their AliExpress page. Which is where I suspect they’ll sell their Phoenix pads when they’re revised.

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I’ve been examining the pads and I can tell by the smoothness of the pleather that this is no regular chifi! Neither Dekoni nor Brainwavz can compare in how smooth this pleather feels and it probably has a great impact on reflections and sound! I eagerly await the new pads!

So here is an update for everybody -
I just received my Dekoni Blue’s, and I have to say. Phoenix beats them in terms of bass. This is just based off of memory (if anybody is that interested, I can pull out the Phoenix and do some listening, am just a little bit busy these days
), so I cannot say anything about the punch or quantity & quality - but one thing is for sure. The Phoenix is waaaay more capable at rumble than the Blue, people considered the Blue model a basshead type of headphone (I personally don’t quite hear it, yes there is a lot of presence in the lower region, but it doesn’t rumble at all), so if you are a basshead - the Phoenix will most likely satisfy you.

If you are not a basshead, I still believe it will satisfy you, the bass doesn’t interfere with the rest of the frequencies, but if you do crank up the volume - you will feel the bass, and I mean feel

Phoenix’s driver is quite literally right against your ear, whereas Blue has thicker pads and the driver is further away. I can also say that the Phoenix did perform better in the treble region, it had more edge and sparkle - Blue is a headphone whose signature is dark & warm, so if that’s what you are after, then it will definitely satisfy your needs. Phoenix is nowhere close to warm (which I prefer, I am a sparkle lover), but you might experience a roll off in the highest frequencies (what I sometimes call the top top-end)

Still waiting for Sivga to release the pads


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This has basically become a Sivga Phoenix new pad waiting room.

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Hey, it has to be worth it. I can ask again, but I was told that they were meant to be done by the end of the last month.

Sivga makes great headphones, it’s just that a good number of people prefer true over-ear design, rather than on-ear. You also have to respect Sivga for taking their time to release a new set of pads, it’s not easy to create new pads, sound does change - so they are probably testing them out

I’ve had these for almost a week now, and honestly the first day the pads annoyed me, but now I don’t even notice that they the drivers touch my ears. Granted I also use Porta Pro’s, but I really believe you’ll get used to them in a couple days. BTW, they sound great; very neutral, rich, and warm. They also respond to EQ well. I bumped up the bass as I don’t really see these as bass cannons like the Fostex cans.

Also, I think these are super comfortable and have no issues with the headband size.

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I can’t say the Phoenix has more bass than my Dekoni Blue. I did some AB testing in my library and found the blues smoke the Phoenix when it comes to bass quantity and speed. On Link by Dizzi Mystica feat. YUKI (EXIT TRANCE Remix): the vocals are pretty much completely submerged and drowned out by the bass while on Blues, while you can still hear vocals with the Phoenix.

Very weird. I find the bass on the Blues less definte than on the Phoenix - I don’t think the Blues have as powerful impact and delivery as the Phoenix - and they don’t touch anywhere near to the rumble that the Phoenix can produce. With the Phoenix you can feel rumble throughout your whole head - I can seriously compare the Phoenix’s sub-bass response to the one of a subwoofer.

Dekoni never touches that field. Just play “Why So Serious” by Hans Zimmer, right after the 3:25 mark you will hear the sub-bass hit. The Phoenix rumbles at this part, whereas the Blues don’t.

By the way, if you say that the vocals are submerged by bass, that doesn’t mean it has “more bass” - it means the bass is less defined and overwhelms the mix - “takes up” more space in the mix.

You guys are killing me. Im personally looking for warm headphones, since im sensitive to high frequencies, and any hints of sibilance or grainyness in upper mids and treble instantly kills me.
And yet I can’t fucking tell with you guys if it’s a warm headphone or not. Is any frequency band more in the spotlight than the other?? It does sound like a good headphone, especially wanting to hear that sub bass, but I’m tied with nighthawks, since I heard it’s different and that it was a warm headphone. As yet when I hear a guy say it’s nowhere near warm and it sparkles, but at the same time there is an emphasis on bass, I’m at a standstill.

@Hothatter what’s your budget?

Currently UK Amazon price for these tests at 255 GBP(330 USD). I may* be willing to extend to 400 dollars if it’s truly worth it, but not likely.

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@voja had Sivga send him this frequency response graph. Warm =/= bassy. If you want “warm” you should look elsewhere.

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Your gonna wanna look at frequency graphs for rolled off mids and treble. Some headphones that have a lot of bass can still have a lot of treble(V shaped) i don’t find the nighthawks to be fatiguing at all in the high frequencies. Another headphone I’ve heard that have good bass and not crazy highs are the hifiman edition xx, but even then, there could still be some grain in the highs

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They are neither warm or piercing. I am sensitive to shouty headphones and sibilance - yet sparkle is something completely else. It’s the top top-end, you only hear it at the highest peaks
 and those peaks are supposed to make you squint and feel it in your ears. Usually sparkle frequencies only occur for a short period of time.

It depends how far you are willing to go, if you absolutely hate the higher frequencies, go for a warm headphone. I personally find those very boring and “flat”. I am also sensitive to higher frequencies yet love sparkle because it gives another dimension to music.

It also depends on the source you pair them up to - tubes are known for making headphones more warm.

At what volume do you listen to music @Hothatter?

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Thanks for taking your time to help me! I’ve read your reviews on the other forum as well lol. I honestly listen at all levels, but I do especially love to turn it up loud when I love the music or its adrenaline inducing. I do listen to a variety of genres, currently loving dark synthwave. I don’t have any amps, and if I would I may e thought about the fiio btr3k. Maybe I’m blowing it out of proportion about needing warm specifically, since I can definitely appreciate clarity, but hitting sibilance just irks me.
Don’t have any qualms with flat, though I’ve forgotten “true” flat since I do have moondrop startields which are Harman, as my main driver. Im not sure if I’m a bass head or anything like that, but I do remember on my Sony mdram2s that I loved when I equed them to rumble. I also don’t worry about the comfort since I think I have relatively small ears and a small-medium head, though perhaps comes with being barely 18.
I’m sorry for the massive wall of text :worried:, just that I’m really passionate about music, but at the same time, not having access to a store to try out phones has me very anxy and iffy about anything and everything, despite starting to share the hypeness of any praised headphone.

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