Could you make some fast impressions with Sundara or Edition Xs or DT1990pro or Robin (sivga sv021)…
Yea I do not own the Sundara and the DT 1990 Pro anymore. (Never bought the Edition XS. I do own the Arya Stealth V3, but different price bracket) I sold those a year or so ago. So I wouldn’t be able to talk much about them. The only other closest headphones I own in the price bracket would be the Sennheiser HD 660S and the Grado Hemps.
OK. And vs 660s?some quick impressions.
Thanks.
Sivga SV023 Impressions:
Comfort
The SV023 a very comfortable headphone. It uses a headband strap so not to create any hotspots. Pads are a fast memory foam. Your ears might git a little toasty, but I don’t have any issues with it. I can easily wear this headphone all day.
Sound
If you like wide, spacious and airy sound, then I recommend trying these out. Their imaging is pin-point accurate and really good at this price. Instrument separation is just as great due to how wide and spaciousness of the headphone.
Low-end
The bass is tight and controlling. It is impactful and decent amount of texture. The Sivga SV023 does favor quality over quantity. That isn’t say the quantity is bad, It can deliver it and even give a bit of that rattle/shack, but don’t expect it to be something like an EMU Teak either.
Mids
Vocals will sound outside of your head, a little out in front of you. Pianos and guitars have good timbre to them. Kick drum hits and other percussion instruments sound like they should and resonate well. There is a decent amount of decay within the sound.
Highs
There is a bit of bite to the treble. It does have some peaks to it. I don’t hear anything like an 8k peak like the one in DT 1990 Pro for example. It has a bit of sparkle and airiness. However I would say for treble sensitive folks that might prefer the thicker darker sound like in the Sennheiser line, then this might not be the headphone for you.
660s Comparison
The 660s will have a smaller sound stage. It will have a thicker more laid-back sound. Vocals will be more intimate and in your head. The bass is less textured and will sound boomy in comparison. Does not have the same large sound-stage, width and depth in comparison. The SV023 wins on this by a long shot. It will not have the same airiness characteristic to the sound.
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Thanks. I love Sivga Robin and maybe I will try.
The Sivga sv023 would be interesting for films.
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Yep np. I think it should do well watching films and will give you less of that in your head experience.
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You got a nice grain on this one 
Any comparison between Edition Xs and Sv023?
Watched this passion for sound tier list - he has this SV023 at A tier…
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I need feedback… Could any compare Sv023 with one or two of this list?
-Hd660s
-DT1990pro
-Ananda / edition xs
THANKS A LOT.
Sv023 vs Dt1990.
Bass: I notice more impact on the dt1990. The speed I would say seems higher on the sv023. This may be because the sv023 is cleaner and purer. That is, the bass on the sv023 is of less gain.
Mids: the mids of the dt1990 should not be confused. Its peak, or rather, the rise in gain of nearby frequencies is there, it is beginning to be perceived, but the reality is that it has a lower volume midrange than the rest (V-shaped profile). This subtracts for me. In terms of texture and quality I would say they are quite similar but with more gain in the sv023. In the latter they sound fuller.
Treble: the dt1990 has that sparkling touch. It’s nothing crazy or exaggerated as some reviews say on the web. The sv023 has some brightness but less. The cleanliness I would say is a bit better on the sv023. It has a purer treble.
Soundstage: both have a good soundstage. The sv023 does something clearly better. It gives you more depth. The dt1990 tends to give you breadth but little depth.
Imaging: both are very good at this. They outperform the Edition Xs.
The sv023 is ahead of the dt1990. Its timbral accuracy and separation beats the dt1990.
Is the sv023 a successor to the dt1990?
I think that if you want a dynamic driver and open design it is an improvement. I like the tonality better, the cleanliness and the soundstage quality is better too.
Just remember. The sv023 has 300 ohms.
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Sv023 vs Edition Xs.
I proceed to compare these two great headphones.
The Edition Xs has a much lower sensitivity than the Sv023. Despite the fact that the latter has a much higher impedance the sound tends to be lower in the Edition Xs. In other words, the Edition Xs is more demanding. Quite a bit more I would say.
In terms of comfort both are very good. The strap on the sv023 is very comfortable. The pads are smaller than on the Edition Xs. On the Edition Xs, the headset covers almost 2/3 of your skull profile. I have had no problems in comfort with either of them. If I had to say one … I would say the Edition Xs.
The sound is interesting. In my case I have chosen to have both. I think they are complementary. The powerful, sometimes rumbling, clean bass of the Edition xs is commendable.
The clean, fast and textured bass of the sv023 as well.
In the midrange I would say both are great. Quite similar although with the nuance that the Edition Xs separates the sound more and the Sivga is more precise.
In treble the choice is easier. For me the sv023 is better. More extension. The treble is more noticeable and more prominent. They are not sibilant.
Dynamics: Here I have the big doubt: Will the Edition xs with an amplifier that gives more than 1000mw at 32 ohms improve? I don’t know. From 240 mw onwards I haven’t noticed any change in the headset. Neither in technicality nor in anything else.
If it doesn’t change, the sv023 has more dynamics. Everything feels more musical or alive. I like it better.
Scene/Image: (testing)
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Nice comparison. Thanks. I keep hearing more and more good things about the SV023 open back. I would imagine you might hear some improvements in dynamics with an amp delivering more than 1W to the XS, but how that would end up in comparison with SV023 I don’t know.
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It is possible that the Edition xs will improve. I have been able to give it around 700mw at 32 ohms. I don’t have any more amplification. I’m quite sceptical about giving a lot of amplification. I am an advocate that any device with less than 115 sensitivity needs something more than what a mobile/laptop/tablet gives not for lack of volume but to squeeze the capabilities of the driver but that “more”, in my experience, is usually around 120mw at 32 ohms. More than that in few headphones (headphones because iems none) clearly improve with more power.
Topic sv023. It seems incredible to me. I already found the Sv021 incredible. I said many times that it was one of the few headphones that if they sold it to me for twice the retail price (169€) I would buy it because it was very good. There will be those who like its tonality more or less but I compared it several times A/B against the almighty Dt1990 and honestly the difference in technicality (cleanliness, image, scene) was much less than people might think. In tonality I found the Sivga more musical.
The Sv023 does something similar again. They are a great pair. Obviously if you have in your collection things like Hifiman Arya or Audeze Lcd4 then don’t buy it but if not…it’s a clear contender to at least be in the top 3 open headphones under €1000.
Later I will extend the comparison between the edxs and the sivga. I want to measure my words very well.
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I have the SV021 too and like it a lot. Very unique and musical (yes!) sound signature that excels greatly (IMO) at certain things. I’m looking to get the Edition XS at some point in the future and I am also considering the SV023 Open back too.
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Tomorrow I will finish the tests between the Hifman Edition Xs and the Sivga Sv023. Let’s remember. The hifman is considered by many to be the best headphones under €1000 to enjoy music.
Amplification theme I am basing myself on the web Headphones Power Calculator and, although I listen to the quietest music, I intend to reach the power that it gives me as if I were listening in “very loud”. That is, for the Sv023 to reach 10mw at 300 ohms and for the Edition xs to reach 200.5 mw at 18 ohms (possibly the minimum is 32 ohms).
I will complete this table to help those who see this.
Tonality:
-SUBBASS
Quantity:EDXS
Cleaning:SAME
-BASS
Quantity: EDXS
Cleaning: SAME
-MIDS
Quantity:MAYBE SV023
Cleaning:MAYBE EDXS
-MID TREBLE (female vocals)
Quantity:SV023
Cleaning:SV023
-TREBLE
Quantity:SV023
Cleaning:SAME
SOUNDSTAGE. (whoever appears has more)
X AXIS:MAYBE EDXS
Y AXIS:SV023
Z-AXIS:SV023
INSTRUMENT POSITIONING (the one that appears has the best positioning)
SV023
DYNAMICS (whoever appears has more)
SV023
Comfort is overridden because I find BOTH comfortable and this depends a lot on your head shape and tolerance.
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