Not necessarily “chuffing” or something like that, just the difference between the sound of a ported sub vs sealed and how the port plays a part in the overall sound
I get what you’re saying, i know i am not pleased with both ports open, these subs come with fat round foam you can plug the port holes with and are actually tuned to play with 1 or both ports sealed. I’ve had them “sealed” for a few weeks now and was fairly happy until today. I’m at one port open and one sealed at the moment it’s a good sound and they manage to get down to 18hz, haha, as recently tested. It’s all good for now, I’ve got me eyes set on a pre-amp and another amp next. Subs can wait. Hell, i may even get my old blown sealed 15’s working again. I don’t know…i need to stop and just listen to music for a while. LOL. I’m sooo looking forward to your thoughts on the new CAYIN when it finally gets there and you have a chance to play with it!
Already have it lol, have been using it quite a bit. Really everything I was looking for both sound and style wise. I can confidently say I am done with amps for awhile.
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Ohhhh…nice…is it as awesome as it looks? Start a thread and do a review…please…
Ug I never do reviews and also I don’t want to try and get people to buy it lol. It just doesn’t make sense to consider it as an option unless you have a very large overkill collection lol. I could do reviews with my stuff lol and what I have heard, but tbh I don’t think I’m that qualified, I don’t have a ton of free time, and I also don’t think I would be confident in my reviews because I could change my opinion in the future, I don’t think I would be thorough enough, and that would make me want to compare stuff and focus less on the actual enjoyment I get out of them. All I can say is that the cayin was everything I was looking for in a tube amp and I can’t see myself wanting another amp for a while
Fair enough. It scratched and itch and you feel satisfied for the time being. Eventually there will be another itch…there always is😝
Congrats on the sweet amp!
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Kinda had this issue with the older SVS. It was good in one spot and the integration to front was pretty good but i was not totally happy. low Booms where very good but when having a big sitting are it was more a meh, location of the sub might was not ideal.
The current dual setup is more in the correct positions and perfect integration with font end.
It’s just a smooth wave of bass and you cannot tell where they are from any spot. Unless opening eyes, then it’s pretty obvious.
Yes, having two subs in stereo can help with that too, as I think they can provide some good spatial information with good recordings that you can only get in very low frequencies. Also yeah older svs stuff can be good, but when you get to a pretty high end system for mostly music, their tuning can be a little less then ideal for music performance.
Also your room/environment itself can affect the sound of subs too, so properly treating your room can help
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Are there any good alternatives to the svs sb1000. Id like something preferably sealed but without the $500 price tag.
Does it have to be sealed? If so the REL T/Zero or Pioneer Elite SW-E10, Klipsch Sub-12HG do the job well enough.
These won’t go super low, but are pretty great for the price
You could build one yourself too, but that depends on if you want to do that lol
It doesn’t have to be sealed but i think the benefits of a sealed sub would work for my setup better
Oh and they would be connected to powered monitors so they would need output trs or rca’s.
Yes unless you would want to opt for a sub with speaker level inputs. All you need is a pre out to connect the sub
In many cases those sub’s that are designed as Studio or Pro gear sub’s and are designed to be used with stereo monitors have signal (balanced or un-balanced with XLR or RCA) outputs and decent tuning options.
But you need to double the budget limit at minimum, specially with subs that can do super low notes. They sound good and perform great with any music but are also not sealed.
Yes, those types of subs can cost a fair bit. But you could look into JBL LSR310S or Yamaha HS8. The Mackie Studio 10 sub would also work
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Yep. I run two Yamaha HS8 in stereo configuration to Adam A5X’s and when dialed in sound great. Fine tuning with room treatments now but very happy… Love the Adam tweets!
Really you can pretty much get any subs to sound good in the low end you just have to have them in a good box… in my opinion the box is the biggest thing when it comes to getting loud and low I’ve literally seen some Walmart power acoustic gothic subs getting down in a good 3.5 cube ported box tuned to 32 hertz
I’ve usually got a story to tell, unless a question is a yes or no answer. Sorry in advance about my rambling.
Once you get down to 30hz or lower, you’re not really hearing any texture/timber/harmonics in the sound. All of that detail in the bass frequency spectrum is up the line, for the low root note that you really hear in music. Some details of bass are heard even at or above 1khz. Below 30hz & especially below 20hz, you’re really just feeling the bass, more than hearing it. That is fun of course. My Tannoy Definition sub can do that. I don’t remember what it’s lowest frequency output is without looking it up. I’m going to guess 18hz, which isn’t low enough to meet your requirements. However it can rattle the building I reside in & draw complaints of vibrating pictures off of the walls & shelves. So if I have it in the system now, it will be set at like -24db or maybe even as low as -36db to keep the number of complaints down. When I got it I was running it at -6db to -12db which was enough to vibrate the rafters, while in the listening room itself, the sound was very well balanced at moderate to moderate loud overall volume level. I will also advise that just because a sub can go below 30hz doesn’t mean that it’s good. If the sub isn’t well damped in it’s physical suspension design, it’s going to perform poorly. If the sub’s amplifier has a low damping factor, it’s going to perform poorly. Granted most modern designs will have the issue of mechanical & electronic damping well covered. My Tannoy Definition, is opposed 12" woofers I think in a sealed cube box essentially. It can be rattling the rafters, but put your hand on top of the cabinet, or sit on top of it & there is no vibration.
After some complaining about my Tannoy Definition rattling pictures off walls & shelves, I got a JBL LSR310S. After that I could watch movies at theater levels, 2.1 only, get the bass in the room in very satisfying level, yet not rattle the rafters of the entire building. I can concur with the recommendation of the JBL. However it needs balanced 1/4" or XLR inputs & out. There are no RCA connections.