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signed up for Qobuz today (Germany). I guess I am sold on the whole MQA scepticism thing, and besides, I don’t own an MQA-enabled DAC. so far so good, but man, why don’t they (and Tidal for that matter) offer a feature for controlling the desktop app from a mobile (iOS) app, the thing Spotify has had for ages now. it’s such an obvious feature… I know Tidal has is in the works, and I wrote as much to Qobuz support… we’ll see… the Qobuz app, at least on MacOS X is iffy: rendering artefacts, freezes, starts eating over 50% of the CPU without any obvious reason. no suggested tracks similar to what Tidal has, no way to extend the album cover completely for a minimalist view during playback. anyway, we’ll see. I hear that Spotify is working on Hi-Res option as well, so who knows, perhaps I will one day make a full circle. have not tried Amazon HD so far, perhaps I should, have Prime too.

Alex jones for one.

I would give AMHD a try, especially since you have Prime. Huge catalog and good quality audio. Takes some getting used to and search and suggestions are not as good or easy as Spotify. I got it recently and overall am pleased.

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Qobuz has 70 million tracks. That’s not “incredibly small.” It has weaknesses in some obscure genres, but you’re going to find nearly everything mainstream and even a lot of niches on Qobuz.

I tried Qobuz, Amazon HD and Tidal about a year ago. Qobuz sounded the best. I may give Amazon another shot since I’m Prime, and you can’t beat the price. I’m also awaiting what Spotify does with high-res music.

No interest in trying Tidal again. I think MQA is snake oil, and it didn’t sound as good as Qobuz, anyways.

Signed,
Happy Qobuz Customer

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I used Qobuz for some times, but then switch to hdtracks as for me prices were lower on it for the same musics.

I’m quite happy but do go back to Qobuz whenever I cannot find it on hdtracks.

If people are asking the time frame for the whole thing Rogan just starting being a Spotify exclusive the beginning of last week, so the timing makes perfect sense. Spotify paid a pile of money to get him, now they are going to find out how much music they are going to lose in the deal.

Last I knew Willie Nelson, Bruce Springsteen, Barbra Streisand, Queen, Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Dave Grohl, Joni Mitchell, Nils Lofgren & Pearl Jam were joining Neil Young.

The interesting part is that Dave Grohl and Foo Fighters, there are also rumors he and Courtney Love might pull Nirvana this week.

If thats true, Spotify might really have shot them self in the foot this time…

I saw in the news that the CEO of spotify trying to calm the situation making a statement about new guidelines about content on the platform and an information page about covid-19… not sure if that is enough to please Neil Young, but it does say something about the negativity the whole situation has generated towards Spotify…

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Basically Spotify is creating a trigger warning about covid for anyone who isn’t willing to listen to anything outside their bubble. More people will sign up to listen to Rogan now. His numbers are too large for them to care about a few washed up artists. Nothing will come of this. Just like nothing happened to Dave Chappelle over the Netflix situation. If anything happened, more people watched.

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Well, all I can say is none of this bullshit makes me re-evaluate my feelings towards Spotify. I don’t listen to Rogan but I have no problem with him being there. Why would I? He does his thing, and that’s fine. I can like it or not, I can believe it or not, I can listen or not. As a reasonable adult I have this ability. If I’m listening and don’t like what I’m hearing, guess what? I turn a knob or click a button and magically it disappears! This whole thing is tribal nonsense.

Again, all I want to do is listen to music. The rest of it be damned. As for Spotify, the day they go lossless or hi-res or whatever you want to call it and can prove to me that they are a better value than AMHD, I’ll consider it.

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We’ll find out just how popular and valuable classic rock is to Spotify. I suspect most of us are of the classic rock generation in here and are overestimating the cultural relevance of our beloved genre.

Neil gets 6 million streams per month on Spotify. The Weeknd gets 80 million. Bieber gets 75 million. Adele gets 63 million. Olivia Rodrigo, Drake and Taylor Swift each get more than 50 million.

This Spotify “boycott” won’t have any teeth until a monstrous pop star joins the oldsters in solidarity.

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I don’t really think i am overestimating the value of “classic rock”, and i know that spotify will make more money keeping Rogan rather than “a few classic rock acts”… But, spotify being a music service, should really be about music :slight_smile:

i am a bit reluctant to change streaming services, as spotify has a few tricks that really like (like sitting in my recliner, using my phone to change songs that are streamed from my computer via my dac to my amplifier as opposed to play via the phone and BT to the amplifier). Also, since all my freinds are using spotify, its easy to share links to songs/albums/artists

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Are you in Canada, though? My understanding is that it’s not identical in terms of catalogue between the countries.

Well, to get this somewhat back on track, because no one will change anyone’s mind on this subject, I’ll kick it off.

Qobuz is the best streaming service, fight me! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I feel this way because it’s better sounding than Spotify or tidal imo, and because it’s roon friendly. I use roon when at home (with qobuz tied in) and straight qobuz on the go. The other option would be probably apple. If you’re using apple and have your setup/library tweaked for them then that makes sense. Just hard to use apple hires if you have a windows setup.

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My spidey hairs say a streaming war between apple music vs amazonHD. Because of the joe rogan fallout finally went through the new neil young atmos album and watching the apple podcast with young. Must say i dig the barn record. Not much for the atmos mix but the stereo mix and how it was recorded, real audiophile stuff.

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This Joe Rogan chap is it/he an American thing? as we don’t seem to get much JR interest over here in the UK :man_shrugging:…but we do love music so I’m down with the artists…a world without streamed podcasts is “whatever” where as a world without streamable music would impact my life massively :disappointed_relieved:

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Sadly the Chromecast support doesn’t work for me with Amazon hd…

No. USA. Sorry.

That’s true, since they are competitors. Need an Amazon device for AMHD but even some of those don’t play full hi res. I’ve been using Spotify to cast to my stereo with an old CC puck (discontinued) or if I want Amazon HD I have a 15 ft shielded rca cable that
I run from my dac to the Aux input of my integrated amp.

Man, this thing is still going on? Ridiculous. I honestly don’t know that it is an American thing, really. I am not sure how/why Rogan got so popular. He obviously hit a cord with a very large amount of people, which is interesting in itself.

Me? I don’t listen to Rogan. But I’m down with freedom of choice. I agree with you that Given the choice between music and podcasts I’ll take the music any day. But Spotify is an open platform. It’s open to everyone, regardless of your musical tastes or your views or whatever. If you don’t like what someone is saying on a given channel, TURN THE F’n channel!

Joni Mitchell is full of shit in what she is trying to say. My opinion. She has the right to feel that way, but I think she is full of shit. So guess what? The day some musician wants to be a tyrant/bully/PUNK/ASSHOLE, take his or her toys and stomp away from the playground like a petulant child… BYE! Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I applaud Spotify for not caving in to these little tittie-babies and not playing the censorship game. They are right to defend Rogan’s right to exist, regardless of what these fools think. I think the overwhelming number of people that are his audience would agree!

Bottom line… Everyone has their own views and beliefs. Spotify should protect EVRYONE’S right to express their views. If you disagree, just be an adult, change the channel and stop this tyranny. Tell ya what… I haven’t listened to Rogan before, but I might start! If nothing else, I want to see what all the hub-bub is about.

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In other news… :crazy_face:

I heard somewhere (I can’t remember from where; it might have been a Cheap Audioman vid) That Tidal was considering ditching MQA. I wonder how accurate that is. If they do, they go back on my list of potential providers.