TH-X00/TR-X00/E-MU Teak/Denon biodynamic general discussion

I don’t know about E-MU cups, but purple heart has the most drastic sound change of the 3 X00 cups. It adds a pretty substantial amount of bass, unique lower mids, mahogany upper mids, and a boost to the treble. They are not going to sound like the ebony cups.

Edit: Crin also has a raw FR graphs for the E-MU Teaks.

Yeah, I’ve read a lot about what the X00 purpleheart is supposed to sound like (although, I’ve never heard one), but the graphs I linked compare the same Ebony cups on different headphones, not the Emu and Fostex cups, and there’s still a substantial difference between how the two sounds. I was just thinking that since the Emu seems to have generally less bass a Purpleheart might suit it better than an Ebony, despite the fact that I’m satisfied with the bass of my X00 Ebony.

Hello,
I have the emu cups Rosewood and Ebony.

Here a small summary in comparison.
Tuning both have the Dekoni rings mounted.
The Rosewood has the Ahg stockpads and the Ebony has the Yaxi Alacantara pads.
Lawton stage 1 insulation on the driver.

Rosewood:
Overall bright and atmospheric and lively in sound.
Treble goes quite high without bleeding in the ears.
Compared to Fostex mahogany the Rosewood is more tamed. What’s good is the highs are definitely sufficient, sometimes it distorts very slightly, so borderline but forgivable. Could also be due to my driver

The mids are present and full, compared to the Denon D7200 not quite enough but it fits the sound. It could have been a bit more present and defined.
But from the vocals it is good and lively the compromise is good. On vocals I am clearly in front of the singer.

The bass is the best I’ve been able to hear so far.
It goes really deep and has a very good contour without bleeding into the mids. In comparison to the Denon D7200 the rosewood beats very clearly.
Because there is nothing bleeding in or too thick. And it stays powerful from start to finish.

All in all, the stage is rich in details due to the vividness of the tuning, which is also reflected in the music. One is more in the middle of what is happening than removed. You can hear quite well when people talk at Hip Hop, you get the impression that you are involved in the conversation.

I find the cups altogether more groovy for all genres of music, except classical music there it could be a bit too shrill by the heights I like to hear you at all kinds because you are fun and powerful especially in the bass makes hip hop, rap, jazz, charts, rock really mood.

With the Ebony:
It is less bright than the rosewood.
So darker, the curtain is darker or the room is dark black.
So much more light off and spot on and the show begins metaphorically speaking.

The heights are at a similar level as the rosewood feels a bit less shrill and slightly tamed in a good way and also pleasant and cosy.

Being in the middle instead of in front of the singer makes me feel more like he/she is singing for me personally. So more intimate. Rich in details and also cleaner in singing the rosewood is slightly dirtier in direct comparison.
Compared to the Denon D7200 on the same level, I find the Ebony a bit softer and not so hard. The tuning in the mids is also more defined and refined.

The bass is not as punchy and dirty as the Rosewood but a bit more calm and full and with a lot of pressure. And it goes down just as low and rich in contour without bleeding into the mids.
The bass line of the Rosewood and Ebony are separate from each other compared to the Denon D7200, I notice that every time I put the D7200 on.

All in all the Ebony is the perfect choice if you want to go a little bit more chill out, for example when working on your computer. Everything a little more relaxed.
It’s as much fun as the Rosewood but a bit more reserved, which makes it a good choice for jazz and classical music. It’s crazy but I never liked jazz that much, but with Emu’s Ebony I got a little bit of a taste for it and even in a real oldschool way with a sip of whisky and cigar.
The rosewood has been trimmed to be fun with a very good listening pleasure.
In summary, both are very good with some limitations. And both go in the right direction but somewhere along the way they separate like a ypsilon.
That’s why I have one for full on fun without any consideration, all full on the face.
And the other one for a little quieter affairs.
I only have the Denon D7200 because it reminds me how good the Fostex/Emu/old Denon series is.
They are simply cleaner in all respects in comparison, the difference you hear with time and the listeners know something. Although the Denon D7200 is newer in terms of technology, it can’t compete with the old series when it is well tuned.

Another small example I had an online training a few days ago and I thought, take the rosewood, the woman got on my nerves while talking. I thought she had such a voice.
She was lively as a person but couldn’t take her seriously. I had her in front of me.
When I switched to Ebony, she was more bearable.
Her voice was then more bearable than before and could take her seriously and afterwards it reflected more what she was.
A lively person but still calm

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Has anybody compared the EMU-Teaks to the TH-610’s?

The E-Teaks are back on Drop and I was curious.

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I was able to spend some time with them both, from what i remember I liked the teaks better. They where better detailed, wider, and not as aggressive. Bass quailty and quantity where decent. Timbre was pretty good too. But yea I would choose teaks.

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Hello,
Does anyone happen to know the exact name of the Purpelheart wood used in the name of where the cups are made?
I have looked a little bit and there are different kinds of rosewood from Honduras to Amarath.
Somewhere I have seen a wood link but I don’t know where it was, I think it is also listed where the wood is used.
I need it for a project where I might be able to get it running if the carpenter is willing to help.

A lot of purple heart comes from Brazil, but Lawton uses bolivian purple heart.

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Hey,
Thank you so much.:+1::metal::+1::metal::+1::v::v::v::v:Is this what would hear for the Project :grin:.

How does the Nighthawk Carbon and E-MU Teak compare to one another?

I haven’t heard the nighthawk, but from what I understand they are similar to the X00s in terms of dynamics, slam, etc. The main difference is in the tuning. The X00s are a warm V-shape. As for the nighthawk, I don’t know exactly, but I do know they have pretty decent amounts of bass and are pretty warm.

You know what really cheeses my onions? The fact that the pretty much universally disliked HE-350 is still available on massdrop but they discontinued the rather well regardled X00 line. I’m willing to bet that if they only discontinued the mahogany (the one people liked the least) and replaced it with another wood like wenge, bubinga, cocobolo, or sepele (especially bubinga and sepele since they even look similar to mahogany) then make a big fuss about a new X00, they would have continued bro sell just fine. I’m mean hell, all it took was joshua valour gushing over the ebony for those to sell out in like a day.

Fuck massdrop sometimes.

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Yes, I agree completely.
I don’t know what Massdrop was thinking, apparently not much.

The only option is to keep an eye out for a used Denon D2000 or the Emu.

Another thing you might have to say is that Fostex did not really manage to make the cups the way Emu does.
Maybe the massdrop found out that way or it became really expensive in the end to import them from China to the Usa and then export them again.
If it would be the latter you can thank the people who chose an extraordinary man in 2016, ironically :wink:

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This is something I’ve been wondering a lot about.
First of all, how come everyone is so fixated on the X00 if the Emu teak comes at the same price and they are often regarded as the best out of all the variants? I don’t think I’ve come across the exact reason so far. Also, couldn’t people reach the same result just by switching out the wood on a Th-610?
I agree with you 100%, though.

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What’s your name so nice?
The ways of the Lord are unfathomable, :grin:.

Too little attention is paid to the emu, that’s all.
Fostex is a huge name that has to be good.
But Emu on the other hand quite small.

I actually have almost everything from them, the little Emu Purpelheart for on the go. The listeners are great. Except for a few cups that don’t interest me that much and the Emu Teak that would still appeal to me.

When it comes to communication, it sometimes takes time, but the process is okay and reliable.
And you are helpful too.

This is not the case at Fostex. Sometimes there is never an answer or concerns are treated as a trade secret.

But Emu has the Fostex receiver much better under control than Fostex itself.

Availability and looks. When they where still for sail the X00s where much easier to get and personally I like the all black frame more because it emphasizes the wood more so than the E-MU silver frame. Also E-MU is much less known so people just don’t know to buy it or have reservations about buying from such an obscure company that has to ship international and might not have a return policy etc etc.

While I haven’t herd the Teaks myself, I doubt they are literally BETTER than the X00s or TH-610, it’s just the Teak wood resulted in a tuning that was different and a lot of reviews liked it (also it’s cheaper than the TH-610).

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I own the TR-X00 PH and the E-MU Teak with the removable cable, but I use the E-MU Sapele cups with them.

Honestly, I don’t think the Teaks are much better than the X00 PH, if at all. They are more alike than they are dissimilar. I just swapped off my sapele cups for the teaks, and my preference between the X00 PH and the E-MU Teak changes from track to track.

It really is a sound signature preference battle between these two, and I just find the Teaks a little boring in comparison to my Sapele cups, or the X00 with the PH cups for that matter. My library just doesn’t need another jack of all trades halfway v shaped headphone. Teak cups don’t excite me or relax me in ways other configurations can, so I just leave them off.

I think reviewers might say these are the “best” because it isn’t particularly offensive in any significant ways (as long as you can appreciate a V shaped sound to begin with.)

Purchasing E-MU Teaks still makes sense. If there’s any headphone to own multiple variations of, its this Foster platform. I am hopeful that we see more similar headphones in this lineup in the future. I still think there is value in the Fostex X00 series. From what I can tell, the X00 cups are machined differently from the E-MU cups, so even with the same types of wood, you could probably expect a different sound.

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I am happy to share that point with you.
But here the taste is back on personal rights.
I really like the Emu rosewood because it brightly illuminates the room.
And Emu’s ebonys aren’t wrong either.
For the Tr X 00 Ph and Ebony from Fostex itself, I don’t have a reference for a direct comparison.

But I have to admit that I am more of the V type than the W type and I was still there.
With the W signature, I can still handle it if it is still alive and with charm.
Even if it is a different driver, I felt that the He4xx was not only dull but also influenced. Something like that didn’t catch me.

But how you see, how you see yourself, how you feel again, how you see, how you see, how you see.
Was normal is normal.
I still struggle with the Denon D7200 today, although I can tame it in the bass.
Now is a question of how to go on. There are also some things that I like about him.

As I said, it means always and the aftermarket to look for a D2000.
You are still perfect for modding.Lawtonmod level 1 possibly one more set of his cups and the fun begins.
I’ve already done the restoration from the loss and it is still my favorite today. Even playing in the DSD, it has the other listeners the nose forward. Even though the older of the 3 listeners is.

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I went to look for the Tesla 1.5 drivers used for th900s but couldn’t bring them up. Anyone know if they are still available somewhere?

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Contact the people at fullcompass.com and shoot them an email about ordering a th900 replacement driver

Or you look for a used Denon D2000 that is still driver technically okay if that is too expensive for you.
Asked stupidly what do you actually do with the drivers that you manage to shoot them?